Red Mosquito

turned2black wrote:It's a good song, I'm just not a fan of the chorus. If it were on High Violet, it would be the worst song on the album.

Haven't heard it yet but it can't seriously be worse than Runaway, can it?

Heathen wrote:

turned2black wrote:It's a good song, I'm just not a fan of the chorus. If it were on High Violet, it would be the worst song on the album.

Haven't heard it yet but it can't seriously be worse than Runaway, can it?

I fucking love Runaway. So yes, it's considerably worse.

Runaway is gorgeous.

National songs take like 10 spins to make sense, then you're fucked for life.

guess this isnt their upbeat album

so yeah that song isn't very exciting to say the least

well, Bloodbluzz Ohio didnt grabbed me right away

turned2black wrote:

solace wrote:

turned2black wrote:It's a good song, I'm just not a fan of the chorus. If it were on High Violet, it would be the worst song on the album.

nope.

Sorry, but I disagree.
I have been playing it all day. I'm not saying it's a bad song, I just don't love it.

that's cool... i'm just saying that The National have never been a band that I loved from the first listen... even going back to the first time I heard 'Murder Me Rachel' on WOXY in 2003. i bought the album based on that song and 'Available', but didn't FULLY get into them until after Alligator came out.

they're a band that makes full albums, not singles.

that said, i still think this is a solid 7.5 or 8 track, based on the lyrics and that refrain. do i think it'll be the best song on the album? heavens no. from someone I know who has heard it, he said it's about in the middle for him... maybe towards the bottom half.

Graceless will "excite" the people who prefer their heavier stuff (Abel, Mr. November, etc.)

psychobain wrote:well, Bloodbluzz Ohio didnt grabbed me right away

it didn't take me 10 listens to get into Boxer or High Violet

I just don't care for this new song, it's not awful but kinda bland

it took me, and its one of my fav albums

im with solace...you cant understand this song until you hear the whole album

Heathen wrote: it didn't take me 10 listens to get into Boxer or High Violet

High Violet took at least 15-20 for me to not find it a disappointment compared to Boxer or Alligator. it's still not as quite as good, but it's not exactly "worse" either

i won't be surprised at all if i take to this/like it way more than High Violet, which i still loved (was def in my top 3 of 2010)

i sorta equate this song to 'Sorrow', a song that is in my top 5 on HV, but if i'd heard it out of the context of the album, I doubt i'd have loved it nearly as much.

From today's BBC 6 live session...

Steve Lamacq: "...this really immediate type where you engage with on the first listen (Sea of Love)."

Matt: "yeah. I don't think... We usually aren't very good at those kind of songs, but somehow I think it sort of worked that way on a few songs on this record"

I don't see myself listening 20 times to something I find disappointing. I don't mind not being a loyal fan.

Disappointing doesn't mean bad...

It means my expectations were insanely high. It was "disappointing" to how I envisioned/wished for in my head, not compared to other albums by other bands coming out at that time.

I didn't dislike it at all, even at first. Big difference. Has nothing to do with being "loyal", I don't give two fucks about that, regardless of the band.

No Code took me 6 months to a year to fully appreciate, and even then it continued to grow and reveal itself.

Well yeah if you don't dislike it at first it's a different story, obviously. I'm more talking about stuff that doesn't even make you want to spin it again. Like this new song. If the whole album excites me as much as this song I doubt it will make it to 10 listens or even 5.

Sorrow is great and I have no doubt I would have loved it anyway.

Heathen wrote:Well yeah if you don't dislike it at first it's a different story, obviously. I'm more talking about stuff that doesn't even make you want to spin it again. Like this new song. If the whole album excites me as much as this song I doubt it will make it to 10 listens or even 5.

Sorrow is great and I have no doubt I would have loved it anyway.

huh. 'Demons' is better than Sorrow in my book.

diff strokes i guess.

Heathen wrote:

psychobain wrote:well, Bloodbluzz Ohio didnt grabbed me right away

it didn't take me 10 listens to get into Boxer or High Violet

I just don't care for this new song, it's not awful but kinda bland

agree

maybe it's just the fanboy in me, but i haven't really found a song of theirs "dull" or "bland" post Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers i guess.

sure there's plenty that aren't as great as others, but there's very very little songs in their catalog i'd ever consider skipping on an album.

solace wrote:maybe it's just the fanboy in me, but i haven't really found a song of theirs "dull" or "bland" post Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers i guess.

sure there's plenty that aren't as great as others, but there's very very little songs in their catalog i'd ever consider skipping on an album.

I thought you weren't a big fan of "Guest Room."

Chris_H_2 wrote:

solace wrote:maybe it's just the fanboy in me, but i haven't really found a song of theirs "dull" or "bland" post Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers i guess.

sure there's plenty that aren't as great as others, but there's very very little songs in their catalog i'd ever consider skipping on an album.

I thought you weren't a big fan of "Guest Room."

it's one of my least favorite songs on Boxer, but i don't skip any songs on that record usually.

i like it more than Gospel i think, not sure...

Val Jester and City Middle off Alligator are def my least fave songs off that one.

solace wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

solace wrote:maybe it's just the fanboy in me, but i haven't really found a song of theirs "dull" or "bland" post Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers i guess.

sure there's plenty that aren't as great as others, but there's very very little songs in their catalog i'd ever consider skipping on an album.

I thought you weren't a big fan of "Guest Room."

it's one of my least favorite songs on Boxer, but i don't skip any songs on that record usually.

i like it more than Gospel i think, not sure...

Val Jester and City Middle off Alligator are def my least fave songs off that one.

I think my clunkers from Alligator on are:

- Val Jester (Alligator)
- Racing Like A Pro (Boxer)
- Runaway (HV)