Red Mosquito

Kevin Davis wrote:

mikejasond wrote: I just notice them when listening to concerts on the radio.

"Stone is awful -- whenever he plays guitar it sounds like a crappy 128kbps mp3 transcode!"

PHATJ wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

mikejasond wrote: I just notice them when listening to concerts on the radio.

"Stone is awful -- whenever he plays guitar it sounds like a crappy 128kbps mp3 transcode!"

PHATJ wrote:Which Pumpkins song does Billy's dad play on? I don't know this story.

It's "The Last Song," from the "Aeroplane Flies High" box set. It's not really extraordinary in any way -- it's just about fifteen seconds of just the right color in just the right place, and I've always really liked it.

Kevin Davis wrote:

PHATJ wrote:Which Pumpkins song does Billy's dad play on? I don't know this story.

It's "The Last Song," from the "Aeroplane Flies High" box set. It's not really extraordinary in any way -- it's just about fifteen seconds of just the right color in just the right place, and I've always really liked it.

That's cool. I had never heard that. Now I want to find the song.

I mean, I love Kim Thayil and all, but come on...

I literally feel like Im in bizarro world. I listen to PJ on the radio and am constantly underwhelmed by the live guitar playing and here its like everybody praises this mediocre guitar playing as wonderful. There are so many bands with better live guitarists....Stone is NOTHING impressive, even a little bit.

I think maybe you do live in bizzaro world. There's more to being a guitar player than live radio. Besides few of us are really qualified to judge. We like what we like.

Is it the semi-acoustic-type tone Stone often uses in modern versions of Black that gets to you, like this?



Here's an earlier version. Do you like this better, worse or the same?



Are there specific parts you can point to that illustrate what you don't like?

I want to understand.

Birds in Hell wrote:I want to understand.

a true yeoman

Bammer wrote:I mean, I love Kim Thayil and all, but come on...

yeah this

The 2013 one is better I think by a bit I think, but neither is great. It just sounds sloppy. Like he's still learning the song somehow. And Ive heard bootlegs where its even worse. Where I literally am like 'omg you are ruining this song with your clunky playing and harsh tones'

Billy and Jerry

MJD is right about this

I love the part of Single Video Theory where Stone talks about how he created songs at the time(Yield), usually coming up with a riff on a guitar, then working something out from that, and finally developing a complete song with the entire band. Brilliant.

Anders wrote:I love the part of Single Video Theory where Stone talks about how he created songs at the time(Yield), usually coming up with a riff on a guitar, then working something out from that, and finally developing a complete song with the entire band. Brilliant.

... Isn't that how most bands do it?

well there was that time someone gave them Crazy Mary.

theplatypus wrote:

Anders wrote:I love the part of Single Video Theory where Stone talks about how he created songs at the time(Yield), usually coming up with a riff on a guitar, then working something out from that, and finally developing a complete song with the entire band. Brilliant.

... Isn't that how most bands do it?

You ever hear Fourth Time Around?

theplatypus wrote:

Anders wrote:I love the part of Single Video Theory where Stone talks about how he created songs at the time(Yield), usually coming up with a riff on a guitar, then working something out from that, and finally developing a complete song with the entire band. Brilliant.

... Isn't that how most bands do it?

That was my first thought too.

PHATJ wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Anders wrote:I love the part of Single Video Theory where Stone talks about how he created songs at the time(Yield), usually coming up with a riff on a guitar, then working something out from that, and finally developing a complete song with the entire band. Brilliant.

... Isn't that how most bands do it?

That was my first thought too.

I also love the part where Mike talks about how they do a tour, usually over two different legs, going from town to town via airplane in different sections of America and playing a show for 2-3 hours in each city's concert venue, and finally saying "good night" to the audience after the last song. Brilliant.

evenslow wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Anders wrote:I love the part of Single Video Theory where Stone talks about how he created songs at the time(Yield), usually coming up with a riff on a guitar, then working something out from that, and finally developing a complete song with the entire band. Brilliant.

... Isn't that how most bands do it?

That was my first thought too.

I also love the part where Mike talks about how they do a tour, usually over two different legs, going from town to town via airplane in different sections of America and playing a show for 2-3 hours in each city's concert venue, and finally saying "good night" to the audience after the last song. Brilliant.

I love how they talk about when they greet fans they say "hi" and then after visiting with them but before leaving they say "goodbye". These guys are fucking genius.