Red Mosquito

I think calling anything about No Code overrated is pretty fucking dumb.

Team Kaius

one of my very first threads on RM was about how I thought everyone was overrating no code.

that doesn't change Kaius' point, I suppose.

pretty much the opposite

Release_Me wrote:I feel this is probably the most overrated song on probably their most overrated album. I don't think it's bad, but it's not that good either. Especially coming after the slower songs on the first three albums, a pretty big letdown. PJ ballads in that era were a thing of beauty.

I've come around to a bit (I think it's decent now) but man, Around the Bend was a HUGE letdown in 1996, stacked up against Release, Indifference, Immortality, Nothingman. I felt like I was being punished for some crime I didn't realize I had committed.

I'd expect to be outnumbered on a forum called Red Mosquito. No Code is the biggest disappointment in their catalogue for me because back then, Ed's voice was still sublime and yet, this is the album they put out. It sits near the bottom of the pile for me. I still like it because I like all their albums. Just disappointing.

stip wrote:

Release_Me wrote:I feel this is probably the most overrated song on probably their most overrated album. I don't think it's bad, but it's not that good either. Especially coming after the slower songs on the first three albums, a pretty big letdown. PJ ballads in that era were a thing of beauty.

I've come around to a bit (I think it's decent now) but man, Around the Bend was a HUGE letdown in 1996, stacked up against Release, Indifference, Immortality, Nothingman. I felt like I was being punished for some crime I didn't realize I had committed.

Pretty much.

Release_Me wrote:

stip wrote:

Release_Me wrote:I feel this is probably the most overrated song on probably their most overrated album. I don't think it's bad, but it's not that good either. Especially coming after the slower songs on the first three albums, a pretty big letdown. PJ ballads in that era were a thing of beauty.

I've come around to a bit (I think it's decent now) but man, Around the Bend was a HUGE letdown in 1996, stacked up against Release, Indifference, Immortality, Nothingman. I felt like I was being punished for some crime I didn't realize I had committed.

Pretty much.

Eh - nope.

From day one, I always liked both No Code and Around the Bend. It was exactly how these were so different as to why I decided I should get into this band. I liked the 1st three records, all of them. Really liked Vitalogy, but No Code cemented it for me. I remember listening Present Tense-I'm Open-Around the Bend over and over again laying in bed at night (each time skipping Mankind). It was an entirely new dimension that I couldn't get enough of.

hlniv wrote:

Release_Me wrote:

stip wrote:

Release_Me wrote:I feel this is probably the most overrated song on probably their most overrated album. I don't think it's bad, but it's not that good either. Especially coming after the slower songs on the first three albums, a pretty big letdown. PJ ballads in that era were a thing of beauty.

I've come around to a bit (I think it's decent now) but man, Around the Bend was a HUGE letdown in 1996, stacked up against Release, Indifference, Immortality, Nothingman. I felt like I was being punished for some crime I didn't realize I had committed.

Pretty much.

Eh - nope.

From day one, I always liked both No Code and Around the Bend. It was exactly how these were so different as to why I decided I should get into this band. I liked the 1st three records, all of them. Really liked Vitalogy, but No Code cemented it for me. I remember listening Present Tense-I'm Open-Around the Bend over and over again laying in bed at night (each time skipping Mankind). It was an entirely new dimension that I couldn't get enough of.

pretty much

It's probably got more in common with the muted and subtle craft of "all in a room" early country rock (see: the Flying Burrito Brothers cutting Wild Horses) than it does anything 1990's. I can see where people who aren't into that stuff, or who are big on the 1991-1994 era, might not care for this song.

It's been some time now that it's been my favorite Pearl Jam song.

It's far from my favorite Pearl Jam song. Hell, it's far from my favorite song on No Code. But it's a lovely, lovely song. One I never mind listening to, and even seek out time to time.