Red Mosquito

the fixer makes everyone feel something!

I like both NAIS and The Fixer. Not to the point that The Fixer would be a 5* or in my top 5 (like NAIS) but they can both exist quite happily in my world.

stip wrote:the fixer makes everyone feel something!

so does cancer!

purple is a fruit

LetMeSleep wrote:I like both NAIS and The Fixer. Not to the point that The Fixer would be a 5* or in my top 5 (like NAIS) but they can both exist quite happily in my world.

yeah I like both too. NAIS is one of the good binaural songs.

alrighty then

For the longest time I thought this song should have been "Nothing IS as it Seems."

stip wrote:
yeah I like both too. NAIS is one of the good binaural songs.

Yeppers. 1 out of only 13 good songs on Binaural.

Why are we comparing The Fixer with NAIS? I don't like that abbreviation. Makes me think of pain meds.

Am i the only one who thinks this makes a great album closer?

Man, what a band they were.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Man, what a band they were.

Fuck this place is so cynical. I saw them in October for the sixth or seventh time. They're excellent. We're all gonna get older and lose a step, but this band is STILL amazing.

guitar_davey wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Man, what a band they were.

Fuck this place is so cynical. I saw them in October for the sixth or seventh time. They're excellent. We're all gonna get older and lose a step, but this band is STILL amazing.

This is hardly the reason for the cynicism.

guitar_davey wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Man, what a band they were.

Fuck this place is so cynical. I saw them in October for the sixth or seventh time. They're excellent. We're all gonna get older and lose a step, but this band is STILL amazing.

I couldn't agree with you more. They are still great live- capable of making me quite giddy. And the fact that there is incessant argument over what constitutes their greatest work- I mean, every one of their albums is put under a microscope by us megafans. Set against the rest of what counts for rock and roll these days, these guys are simply legendary.

I don't know why people give NAIS a hard time. I see in the poll that a lot of people give it 5 stars, which is great in my book. But I swear every time I bring it up with my handful of personal PJ friends, they just shit all over it.

This has always been a top 10 song for me, and one of my favorite Jeff pieces

I remember hearing this for the first time on a boot from the '99 Bridge school shows. Instantly blew me away. Out of all the pre-album singles, this one got me most excited about an upcoming PJ album

bodysnatcher wrote:I don't know why people give NAIS a hard time. I see in the poll that a lot of people give it 5 stars, which is great in my book. But I swear every time I bring it up with my handful of personal PJ friends, they just shit all over it.

This has always been a top 10 song for me, and one of my favorite Jeff pieces

I remember hearing this for the first time on a boot from the '99 Bridge school shows. Instantly blew me away. Out of all the pre-album singles, this one got me most excited about an upcoming PJ album

Couldn't tell you how many times I listened to those two tracks (NAIS, Thin Air) leading up to Binaural.

I think I just heard my favorite live version of this song via 'the Guest Are So Refined'; Sendai (2/28/03) is a good one team.

Thejambi wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Man, what a band they were.

Fuck this place is so cynical. I saw them in October for the sixth or seventh time. They're excellent. We're all gonna get older and lose a step, but this band is STILL amazing.

This is hardly the reason for the cynicism.

There is an entirely different kind of cynicism inherent to devaluing past success in order to justify the moment you're in. It's the kind of cynicism that says "As long as it's Pearl Jam, I'll be happy." It's the kind that says "I had low expectations, so I was pleasantly surprised." It's the kind that feeds surface-glitter Hollywood remakes and uninspired "play it safe" record releases. It has the intention of communicating an appreciation for what's left to be received. It wants to recognize that perfection is not necessary in order for enjoyment to occur. And those feelings can certainly be understood to have value...but the message itself cannot pervade without also feeding the idea that past peaks simply weren't all that necessary, because anything above the plainest of adequacies is all that's really asked or needed.

McParadigm wrote:There is an entirely different kind of cynicism inherent to devaluing past success in order to justify the moment you're in. It's the kind of cynicism that says "As long as it's Pearl Jam, I'll be happy." It's the kind that says "I had low expectations, so I was pleasantly surprised." It's the kind that feeds surface-glitter Hollywood remakes and uninspired "play it safe" record releases. It has the intention of communicating an appreciation for what's left to be received. It wants to recognize that perfection is not necessary in order for enjoyment to occur. And those feelings can certainly be understood to have value...but the message itself cannot pervade without also feeding the idea that past peaks simply weren't all that necessary, because anything above the plainest of adequacies is all that's really asked or needed.

You are assuming an awful lot, merely to justify your opinion of the newer material. When I saw the band in Portland, I saw musician's who were playing their A game, and that included the new material. You can act like you understand what's going on better than I do, but the fact is, these are just two competing opinions. "Pearl Jam could be so much better" is a meaningless statement. Pearl Jam is what they is.

aurynsdad wrote:

McParadigm wrote:There is an entirely different kind of cynicism inherent to devaluing past success in order to justify the moment you're in. It's the kind of cynicism that says "As long as it's Pearl Jam, I'll be happy." It's the kind that says "I had low expectations, so I was pleasantly surprised." It's the kind that feeds surface-glitter Hollywood remakes and uninspired "play it safe" record releases. It has the intention of communicating an appreciation for what's left to be received. It wants to recognize that perfection is not necessary in order for enjoyment to occur. And those feelings can certainly be understood to have value...but the message itself cannot pervade without also feeding the idea that past peaks simply weren't all that necessary, because anything above the plainest of adequacies is all that's really asked or needed.

You are assuming an awful lot, merely to justify your opinion of the newer material. When I saw the band in Portland, I saw musician's who were playing their A game, and that included the new material. You can act like you understand what's going on better than I do, but the fact is, these are just two competing opinions. "Pearl Jam could be so much better" is a meaningless statement. Pearl Jam is what they is.

I didn't deliver any judgment on the band Pearl Jam in the paragraph above.

I was judging their fans.

Who are wretched.

McParadigm judges Pearl Jam:

"surface glitter Hollywood remakes"

"uninspired 'play it safe' record releases"

Furthermore, show me an instance where fans are saying "As long as it's Pearl Jam, I'll be happy." I tend to like most of what the band releases, but that doesn't mean I'm satisfied with a track like Ole, or Whale Song, or any number of songs that I personally find to be crappy.

You are confusing a difference in musical taste between you and other fans with a lowering of standards on their part. It is as if you see a woman you think is beautiful, and a woman you think is not. Someone else thinks the second woman is beautiful, and you say they have lower standards than you. Nope, not lower. Different.

Wretched? Get out. Better yet, get over yourself.