Red Mosquito

perhaps

definitive list
mankind
dont gimme no lip
u
leatherman
hitchhiker
big wave
supersonic
ole
again today
Superblood Wolfmoon


Spritzy Adjacent
black red yellow
gods dice
green disease
get right
gonna see my friend
johnny guitar
the fixer
let the record play

No Vitalogy?

'blood' is one of their most 'punk' songs. is it too angry ti be 'spritzy'?

I think yes.

no - spritzy punk needs to be bright and upbeat

i was responding to the vitalogy comment.

mankind is patient zero

I honestly love Mankind, not absolute top tier Pearl Jam, but certainly a top 100 song. But with Stone singing, I always thought of it as an anomaly, and in most ways very different from SBWM.

stip wrote:i was responding to the vitalogy comment.

mankind is patient zero

what a great song. black, red, yellow was written about the same time?

no spin the black circle?

too raw - and there isnt enough shine on it.


there is a whole list of aggressive fast paced punk influenced songs, but they arent spritzy

man, people are really having a lot of trouble with the whole "spritzy" part of this. you can't just throw out any fast punk song.

spritzy is bubbly, can't-sit-still, sunny, giggly, hyper, bouncy. aka not anything off of vitalogy. whipping is not spritzy for god's sake.

stip is probably right that mankind is patient zero but that feels weird with stone on vocals. it's really more of a post ST phenomenon to be honest. they seemed to double down on that specific type of song as an automatic part of their repertoire after the self-serious approach of that record.

the fixer absolutely needs to be on the official list.

warehouse wrote:'blood' is one of their most 'punk' songs.

I think you're right that it's too angry to be categorized as "spritzy", but just to zero in on this point: "Blood" is in an odd time signature and has funky wah-wah guitar part running through the verses. I don't think it's "one of their most punk songs"

"Blood" is some hybrid between hardcore and groove-metal, imo; "Leash" is in the same ballpark but a slightly less mature example

it's messy but not punk

remember when PJ wrote stylistic hybrids?

Spritzy I can like, but pure punk is the worst.

Anders wrote:Spritzy I can like, but pure punk is the worst.

I'm not super into it either

Leatherman isn’t punk for fucks sake. It’s basically a folk song.

Strat wrote:Leatherman isn’t punk for fucks sake. It’s basically a folk song.

Is SBWM really a punk song at all either?

Strat wrote:Leatherman isn’t punk for fucks sake. It’s basically a folk song.

Sorry, all the musical parts are there. By this logic Bad Religion wouldn't be a punk band

Anders wrote:

Strat wrote:Leatherman isn’t punk for fucks sake. It’s basically a folk song.

Is SBWM really a punk song at all either?

Definitely a lot of punky elements in this song