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Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 10:55 am
by stip
I was starting to put this together this morning. To do a single elimination tournament (randomized each round) with three song first round brackets there needs to be 192 songs. My usual starting tournament list has about 230. I am going to exclude the following songs. If there are alternate cases to be made you have a week to persuade me.
From studio albums: Master/Slave, Pry To, Stupid Mop, Hummus
Misc other songs: Around and Around, Be Like Wind, Better Things, Chinese, Cready Stomp, Daddy Could Swear, Devil Doll, Don't Believe in Xmas, Evil Little Goal Falling Down, Foldback, Golden State, Harmony, Hunted Down, I just Wanna Have Something to Do, It Ain't like that, I've Got a feeling, Jingle Bells, Just a Girl, Obey the Law of the Heart, Olympic Platinum, Pendulmorphosis, Puzzles and games, Anything in Between, Rock Around Barack, Santa Cruz, Santa God, Thunderclap, Turning Mist, Wild Flowers, Wishing Well, 2000 Mile Blues
The songs from core albums (excepting those above) and Lost Dogs are all in. The non album tracks in the tournament (so adding one of the above requires taking out one of the below): are
Acoustic #1, Again Today, Angel, Breath, Can't deny Me, Brother, Let it Ride, Cold Confessions, Crazy Mary, Get it Back, Happy When I'm Crying, I Got id, Last Solider, Leatherman, Long Road, Love Reign O'er Me, Man of the hour, Of the Earth, Ole, Out of My Mind, Someday at Xmas, State of Love and Trust, Sonic Reducer, Sunburn, Untitled (I'm Still Here), 10 Billion Years
Thoughts?
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 2:37 pm
by liebzz
Cready Stomp in, Acoustic #1 out.
Just a Girl and Santa Cruz should be in. Again Today and Sonic Reducer out. Mostly replacing covers with originals.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 4:27 pm
by epilogue
I'm always in favor of replacing covers with originals.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 4:30 pm
by Strat
wtf. you are excluding a lot of original pj classics here stip.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 5:04 pm
by stip
There are only a finite number of slots. Which songs feel essential, strat?
Keeping Again Today and Acoustic #1 just because they are two of my favorite pearl jam releases of the past decadeish
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 5:09 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:There are only a finite number of slots. Which songs feel essential, strat?
Keeping Again Today and Acoustic #1 just because they are two of my favorite pearl jam releases of the past decadeish
i read your post wrong. My apologies.
I thought you were also saying songs like breath, SOLAT, long road, and i got id were out....
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 7:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 8:18 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:If only there were an easy way to make room by jettisoning songs that have won multiple times before
Or not playing favorites

Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 3:03 am
by B
epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:If only there were an easy way to make room by jettisoning songs that have won multiple times before
Or not playing favorites

Stip has earned the right.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 5:29 am
by Bammer
Stip you’re trying to shut out SOLAT and Crazy Mary?
Hmmmmm…..
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 12:03 pm
by ABNorman
Songs that have made a quarterfinal before (in bold means they have also won at least one tournament):
Release (10)
Rearviewmirror (10)
Corduroy (9)
Last Exit (8)
Immortality (7)
Black (5)
In My Tree (5)
Brain of J. (5)
Do the Evolution (5)
Alive (4)
Go (4)
Hail, Hail (4)
Tremor Christ (3)
Faithfull (3)
Given To Fly (3)
I Got Shit (3)
Even Flow (2)
Porch (2)
Insignificance (2)
Sleight of Hand (2)
SOLAT (2)
Daughter (1)
Not For You (1)
Sometimes (1)
Red Mosquito (1)
In Hiding (1)
Yellow Ledbetter (1)
Hard to Imagine (1)
Long Road (1)
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 12:23 pm
by Anders
liebzz wrote:Just a Girl and Santa Cruz should be in. Again Today and Sonic Reducer out. Mostly replacing covers with originals.
Agreed.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 2:43 pm
by liebzz
Bammer wrote:Stip you’re trying to shut out SOLAT and Crazy Mary?
Hmmmmm…..
The bottom paragraph are in, the top out. I pushed to toss out Again Today because it is a straight cover. Might argue the same for Sonic Reducer. I feel like there are a few in the out pile that belong in.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 2:56 pm
by epilogue
B wrote:epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:If only there were an easy way to make room by jettisoning songs that have won multiple times before
Or not playing favorites

Stip has earned the right.
Well that's certainly true.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 2:58 pm
by Bammer
liebzz wrote:Bammer wrote:Stip you’re trying to shut out SOLAT and Crazy Mary?
Hmmmmm…..
The bottom paragraph are in, the top out. I pushed to toss out Again Today because it is a straight cover. Might argue the same for Sonic Reducer. I feel like there are a few in the out pile that belong in.
Turns out I can’t read!
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 4:21 pm
by wease
Bammer wrote:liebzz wrote:Bammer wrote:Stip you’re trying to shut out SOLAT and Crazy Mary?
Hmmmmm…..
The bottom paragraph are in, the top out. I pushed to toss out Again Today because it is a straight cover. Might argue the same for Sonic Reducer. I feel like there are a few in the out pile that belong in.
Turns out I can’t read!
That’s never stopped you
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 5:55 pm
by bodysnatcher
I see at least 8 songs in the approved list that i’d replace with Hunted Down.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 6:04 pm
by Norah
No Olympic Platinum? That song is better than most Pearl Jam songs from the last 3 albums.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 6:06 pm
by Norah
Remove the covers from the last section and replace them with originals from the excluded list.
Re: march madness 2022
Posted: Sun February 06, 2022 6:09 pm
by tragabigzanda