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Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 4:06 pm
by epilogue
doug rr wrote:my wife and i went to Le Bernardin..couldnt tell you to this day what we had..obviously seafood but no idea..the service was too over the top for me..refilling water after every 3 sips..asking if everything was ok if you got up to go the restroom..
That sucks. I had a great experience at Le Bernardin. It was damn near perfect service. Not quite the elite level ninja service we got at Eleven Madison Park, but still great.

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 4:35 pm
by The Argonaut
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:all I know is I hate when the staff clears plates from the table when someone is still eating.
There are competing views on this within the industry. Is it worse to leave a messy plate on the table, or to make those unfinished diners feel like there’s a rush?

The problem move is to clear the plate and just acknowledge there’s no rush.
My mom would say that's the exact wrong thing to do. In her warped mind, saying there's no rush implies that there is a rush. She sees it as super passive aggressive and unprofessional.

I hate dinning out with my mom.
I also don't really like dining out with my parents. Commenting on and judging the service seems to be an essential part of the experience for them

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 4:40 pm
by The Argonaut
Here's my answer to the tipping question. I leave 20% basically no matter what, either rounded up to the next whole dollar if I'm leaving cash or with the right amount of change to get my bill to a .00 whole number if it's going on the card. If I'm just super super bummed about the experience at the restaurant I might leave a dollar less than 20%. And here's the part I'm not proud about: good looking female servers who were nice to me get a bigger tip. I'm not proud of it but it's true

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 4:40 pm
by The Argonaut
Call me a simp, go ahead

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 4:51 pm
by macphisto
I don’t know how Argo comes back from this.

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 4:58 pm
by macphisto
I tip dudes and homely gals better because I've always suspected they're getting screwed by the Argos of the world.

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 5:01 pm
by Bammer
macphisto wrote:I tip dudes and homely gals better because I've always suspected they're getting screwed by the Argos of the world.
:idea:

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 6:51 pm
by tragabigzanda
from the ashes of tonkotsu

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 7:10 pm
by The Argonaut
tragabigzanda wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:Here's my answer to the tipping question. I leave 20% basically no matter what, either rounded up to the next whole dollar if I'm leaving cash or with the right amount of change to get my bill to a .00 whole number if it's going on the card. If I'm just super super bummed about the experience at the restaurant I might leave a dollar less than 20%. And here's the part I'm not proud about: good looking female servers who were nice to me get a bigger tip. I'm not proud of it but it's true
So petty, dude. Be best.
It's a truly rare occurence

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 7:23 pm
by doug rr
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:my wife and i went to Le Bernardin..couldnt tell you to this day what we had..obviously seafood but no idea..the service was too over the top for me..refilling water after every 3 sips..asking if everything was ok if you got up to go the restroom..
That sucks. I had a great experience at Le Bernardin. It was damn near perfect service. Not quite the elite level ninja service we got at Eleven Madison Park, but still great.
don't get me wrong, the food was incredible i just don't remember it..that seems to happen with all the great restaurants..i couldn't tell you what i had at 11 madison or per se or the french laundry either..maybe just a smattering of it..its just that the service was waaaaay too much me..wouldnt stop me from going again though

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 7:24 pm
by The Argonaut
fancy restaurants are a scam. I've been to like two of them, so I know

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 7:25 pm
by doug rr
The Argonaut wrote:fancy restaurants are a scam. I've been to like two of them, so I know
i can see that..although i'd rather spend $500 on dinner than $25 on a pair of socks

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 8:14 pm
by epilogue
The Argonaut wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:all I know is I hate when the staff clears plates from the table when someone is still eating.
There are competing views on this within the industry. Is it worse to leave a messy plate on the table, or to make those unfinished diners feel like there’s a rush?

The problem move is to clear the plate and just acknowledge there’s no rush.
My mom would say that's the exact wrong thing to do. In her warped mind, saying there's no rush implies that there is a rush. She sees it as super passive aggressive and unprofessional.

I hate dinning out with my mom.
I also don't really like dining out with my parents. Commenting on and judging the service seems to be an essential part of the experience for them
Right?! I've never felt closer to you, Argo.

Do you have anyone close to you that works (or has worked) in restaurants?

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 8:16 pm
by epilogue
doug rr wrote:
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:my wife and i went to Le Bernardin..couldnt tell you to this day what we had..obviously seafood but no idea..the service was too over the top for me..refilling water after every 3 sips..asking if everything was ok if you got up to go the restroom..
That sucks. I had a great experience at Le Bernardin. It was damn near perfect service. Not quite the elite level ninja service we got at Eleven Madison Park, but still great.
don't get me wrong, the food was incredible i just don't remember it..that seems to happen with all the great restaurants..i couldn't tell you what i had at 11 madison or per se or the french laundry either..maybe just a smattering of it..its just that the service was waaaaay too much me..wouldnt stop me from going again though
:heartbeat:

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 9:07 pm
by The Argonaut
epilogue wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:all I know is I hate when the staff clears plates from the table when someone is still eating.
There are competing views on this within the industry. Is it worse to leave a messy plate on the table, or to make those unfinished diners feel like there’s a rush?

The problem move is to clear the plate and just acknowledge there’s no rush.
My mom would say that's the exact wrong thing to do. In her warped mind, saying there's no rush implies that there is a rush. She sees it as super passive aggressive and unprofessional.

I hate dinning out with my mom.
I also don't really like dining out with my parents. Commenting on and judging the service seems to be an essential part of the experience for them
Right?! I've never felt closer to you, Argo.

Do you have anyone close to you that works (or has worked) in restaurants?
My brother just turned 30 and recently started his first job outside of the restaurant industry in about nine or ten years. He started as a dishwasher at Applebee's, then was a busboy and later a bartender. For a long time, he was a server at a local restaurant and had been the manager of one of the locations the last three years. He was very ready to move to another industry. My sister also worked as a server for a good part of her twenties. I never did

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 9:32 pm
by epilogue
The Argonaut wrote:
epilogue wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:all I know is I hate when the staff clears plates from the table when someone is still eating.
There are competing views on this within the industry. Is it worse to leave a messy plate on the table, or to make those unfinished diners feel like there’s a rush?

The problem move is to clear the plate and just acknowledge there’s no rush.
My mom would say that's the exact wrong thing to do. In her warped mind, saying there's no rush implies that there is a rush. She sees it as super passive aggressive and unprofessional.

I hate dinning out with my mom.
I also don't really like dining out with my parents. Commenting on and judging the service seems to be an essential part of the experience for them
Right?! I've never felt closer to you, Argo.

Do you have anyone close to you that works (or has worked) in restaurants?
My brother just turned 30 and recently started his first job outside of the restaurant industry in about nine or ten years. He started as a dishwasher at Applebee's, then was a busboy and later a bartender. For a long time, he was a server at a local restaurant and had been the manager of one of the locations the last three years. He was very ready to move to another industry. My sister also worked as a server for a good part of her twenties. I never did
:heartbeat:

Restaurant people are some of the best people

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 9:43 pm
by The Argonaut
meh

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 9:51 pm
by epilogue
:lol:

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 9:52 pm
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:Here's my answer to the tipping question. I leave 20% basically no matter what, either rounded up to the next whole dollar if I'm leaving cash or with the right amount of change to get my bill to a .00 whole number if it's going on the card. If I'm just super super bummed about the experience at the restaurant I might leave a dollar less than 20%. And here's the part I'm not proud about: good looking female servers who were nice to me get a bigger tip. I'm not proud of it but it's true
So petty, dude. Be best.
That’s literally what the tip is supposed to reflect tho.

Re: What kind of diner are you?

Posted: Fri March 04, 2022 10:14 pm
by macphisto
spike wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:Here's my answer to the tipping question. I leave 20% basically no matter what, either rounded up to the next whole dollar if I'm leaving cash or with the right amount of change to get my bill to a .00 whole number if it's going on the card. If I'm just super super bummed about the experience at the restaurant I might leave a dollar less than 20%. And here's the part I'm not proud about: good looking female servers who were nice to me get a bigger tip. I'm not proud of it but it's true
So petty, dude. Be best.
That’s literally what the tip is supposed to reflect tho.
Poor service should not be rewarded, at least not generously. So refreshing to see spike coming in as a voice of reason.