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Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Fri July 08, 2022 4:33 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Fri July 08, 2022 4:36 pm
by dad
tragabigzanda wrote:No, but I’ll say the best one was the first one: sandwiches and smoothies, quiche, salads, nice bakery program, some good microbrews. Super laid back cafe vibe, super affordable price point, awesome owners and staff, early adoption (1999-2001) of the local food movement. Was something of a cultural hub for my provincial hometown. Every restaurant has lacked in comparison for one reason or another.
sounds pretty dope.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 12:35 am
by Mecca
I wholly embrace the not ditching spaghetti regardless of the contents of the cans
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 12:47 am
by EJ
this was a really good show. just randomly decided to watch it.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 1:09 am
by doug rr
EJ wrote:this was a really good show. just randomly decided to watch it.
its better than the 27 yankees..
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 1:53 am
by EJ
doug rr wrote:EJ wrote:this was a really good show. just randomly decided to watch it.
its better than the 27 yankees..
And better than Doug Flutie’s Hail Mary pass to beat Miami in ‘84.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 2:58 am
by daft twat
My wife and I watched this whole thing today. Ep 7 was my favorite. Felt 5 minutes long. The lead’s AA monologue in the finale was super impressive.
This is a show I enjoyed the whole time. It felt almost like a documentary. That said, I wouldn’t insist any of my friends watch it, and in two years I’ll probably forget that I did.
Richie was the best. He sounds so much like John McEnroe to me. I can’t see that actor without thinking of him eating Alison Williams’ ass on Girls.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 11:08 am
by washing machine
tragabigzanda wrote:This is a remarkably accurate depiction of the lifestyle. I bristle at the flashbacks with the abusive EC, because that sort of overt mental abuse is pretty limited, and is all but extinct in the post-Weinstein world; it’s one of the few elements that feels a bit overly dramatic.
But everything at Mike’s, and the cultural clash between the main guy’s pedigreed background and the rough-and-tumble crew he’s inherited, is spot-fucking-on.
Good call. Technically I've never been paid to work in a kitchen since I've always gone the FOH route, but I've jumped on the expo, helped with prep, and had many a post shift drink with sous chefs and and line cooks. They're a unique and intense bunch but, yeah, that was a caricature for sure.
On the same note, I turned to my wife (who is also Industry people) after episode 7 and said "I hope people who've never worked in a restaurant don't think it's like that every day."
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 11:09 am
by washing machine
tragabigzanda wrote:This is a remarkably accurate depiction of the lifestyle. I bristle at the flashbacks with the abusive EC, because that sort of overt mental abuse is pretty limited, and is all but extinct in the post-Weinstein world; it’s one of the few elements that feels a bit overly dramatic.
But everything at Mike’s, and the cultural clash between the main guy’s pedigreed background and the rough-and-tumble crew he’s inherited, is spot-fucking-on.
Good call. Technically I've never been paid to work in a kitchen since I've always gone the FOH route, but I've jumped on the expo, helped with prep, and had many a post shift drink with sous chefs and and line cooks. They're a unique and intense bunch but, yeah, that was a caricature for sure. Closest I ever came to working with a guy like that was at this farm-to-table place with a Danish chef who did not disguise his hate for servers. I asked him a question about the octopus once during service and he grabbed a whole, raw octopus, put it in a stainless steel bowl, slid it across the expo at me and sarcastically sneered that I should take it to the table and show the guests what it looked liked.
On the same note, I turned to my wife (who is also Industry people) after episode 7 and said "I hope people who've never worked in a restaurant don't think it's like that every day." Those kinds of shit shows happen, and I felt every bit of that episode, even from my vantage point on the floor side of things, but more often than not things run smoothly and the stress happens in little micro-pops and mini skirmishes here and there.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 11:27 am
by washing machine
What I really, really like about these characters is the way the shakeup at Original Beef plays out for the different staff. You've got the hardened lifers like Tina who have been doing this for years and have a hard time adapting to a new system built by someone much younger, then you've got the super impressionable creative types like Marcus who let their inspiration consume them at expense of the big picture. You've got Sydney, who is so fucking smart but is just learning how to lead and get the most out of these two ends of the spectrum. THAT, to me, is the most interesting element to this show. How leadership and work ethic and humility and integrity and teamwork come together in weird, toxic ways sometimes.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 4:48 pm
by Rob
washing machine wrote:What I really, really like about these characters is the way the shakeup at Original Beef plays out for the different staff. You've got the hardened lifers like Tina who have been doing this for years and have a hard time adapting to a new system built by someone much younger, then you've got the super impressionable creative types like Marcus who let their inspiration consume them at expense of the big picture. You've got Sydney, who is so fucking smart but is just learning how to lead and get the most out of these two ends of the spectrum. THAT, to me, is the most interesting element to this show. How leadership and work ethic and humility and integrity and teamwork come together in weird, toxic ways sometimes.
I think my wife & I are on episode 6 next (maybe 7). Great show, and the Carmen/Sydney dynamic is my favorite part of the show. They’re a good pair.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sat July 09, 2022 5:29 pm
by doug rr
EJ wrote:doug rr wrote:EJ wrote:this was a really good show. just randomly decided to watch it.
its better than the 27 yankees..
And better than Doug Flutie’s Hail Mary pass to beat Miami in ‘84.
you bringing that triggered an old memory of that day..one of those you remember where you were and what you were doing..and i didn't even care about either team but can still remember that whole day..
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Sun July 10, 2022 1:53 pm
by EJ
doug rr wrote:EJ wrote:doug rr wrote:EJ wrote:this was a really good show. just randomly decided to watch it.
its better than the 27 yankees..
And better than Doug Flutie’s Hail Mary pass to beat Miami in ‘84.
you bringing that triggered an old memory of that day..one of those you remember where you were and what you were doing..and i didn't even care about either team but can still remember that whole day..
I see my work is done here.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Mon July 11, 2022 3:53 am
by knee tunes
E.H. Ruddock wrote:doug rr wrote:who would you consider the mirepoix of rm?
Lenny, Jorge, and knee tunes
I'm gonna call my mom and ask her if this is good
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Mon July 11, 2022 6:12 pm
by Rob
daft twat wrote:My wife and I watched this whole thing today. Ep 7 was my favorite. Felt 5 minutes long. The lead’s AA monologue in the finale was super impressive.
My wife & I just finished this today, and yeah - episode 7 is bonkers (awesome, heart pounding), and the AA speech was really something, I shed a few tears.
What a fantastic show. Easy to love these characters (except for Richie at first, who I knew would come around to be loved as well). This show really isn't afraid to draw a scene out, despite it being a pretty fast paced show most of the time. Love the balance they struck.
Thanks again, RM, as stated I hadn't heard of this prior to clicking on this thread. Homerun.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Tue July 12, 2022 4:17 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Tue July 12, 2022 4:19 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Thu July 14, 2022 2:07 pm
by dad
finished season one last night. such a great show. everything about it rules, right down to the music choices.
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Thu July 14, 2022 4:32 pm
by Mecca
tragabigzanda wrote:E3 incredible. The box cutter, the bullshit, Sydney saying “you stick to your shit and I’ll stick to mine,” then dropping the veal stock everywhere. So many days just like in my memory. Too real.
I’ve watched an entire pan of chicken just collapse and fall the ground too many times. Gut-wrenching feeling
Re: The Bear (FX/Hulu)
Posted: Thu July 14, 2022 4:43 pm
by spike