Red Mosquito

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.

I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.

I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.

This is all true but the thought exercise was to imagine the particular songs on Binaural with Jack behind the kit.

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.

I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.

I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

Well, Matt's songs wouldn't be there. And maybe the non-Matt songs would've just sounded less closeted, claustrophobic and tightly wound.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.

I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.

I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.

Would love to hear that more than anything else. Although I love the original.

theplatypus wrote:

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

Well, Matt's songs wouldn't be there. And maybe the non-Matt songs would've just sounded less closeted, claustrophobic and tightly wound.

I was all of these things not too long ago.

BurtReynolds wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.

I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.

I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.

Would love to hear that more than anything else. Although I love the original.

I had no idea that even existed....
B======================D

HardTI wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

stip wrote:Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.

I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.

I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.

I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.

Would love to hear that more than anything else. Although I love the original.

I had no idea that even existed....
B======================D

This site is mysterious in their sources but whenever something new surfaces from the past we find that they had it listed here the whole time.

http://www.pearljamonline.it/rs.htm

No Heads was a really good collection of tunes and I like Blue Manatee a lot too. I look forward to a new release whenever he has time, I have a feeling the next one is going to be incredible!

Jack speaks at the end of this about it. Cool tune.
Wowzers. This is an actual Pj song. I only thought it was intro music. http://m.soundcloud.com/pearljamonline/ ... l-mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:Jack speaks at the end of this about it. Cool tune.
Wowzers. This is an actual Pj song. I only thought it was intro music. http://m.soundcloud.com/pearljamonline/ ... l-mosquito

Cool find

mp3 download for those unable/too lazy to rip themselves:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8m6jq ... squito.mp3

Was out on a run today and "Act of Love" came on. Jack absolutely kills on that song. Can't imagine anyone topping his style for it. Love that snare.

I'm glad I have a safe place to discuss and appreciate this kind of thing.

i will say it again

go listen to the entire berlin 96 show. he evens puts a killer stripe on hunger strike

Hadn't seen these until now, some particularly nice Irons playing on the first video.

Look very closely and you'll see the possibility for a reunion of sorts...

Oo I bet Eddie and Lana del Rey are gonna fuuuuuuuuck

Jack's playing a solo show? That's awesome.

Listening to some of Randalls Island 2 '96 this morning.

Jack is seriously the best.

evenslow wrote:Look very closely and you'll see the possibility for a reunion of sorts...

THIS IS GETTING CLOSE.

Birds in Hell wrote:

evenslow wrote:Look very closely and you'll see the possibility for a reunion of sorts...

THIS IS GETTING CLOSE.

It's a guarantee that Ed does something with Jack right?