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Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 10:31 am
by daft twat
Leatherhead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Wish they'd cover this more in the style of NIN.
Or not at all. Love Ed, but that is not good.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 10:51 am
by 96583UP
good lookin setlist

is the hurt cover an attempt in the style of johnny cash? i cant be bothered to click the link

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 11:00 am
by Bi_3
daft twat wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Wish they'd cover this more in the style of NIN.
Or not at all. Love Ed, but that is not good.
I like th cover but this performance exposes the current limits of vocal range. He stays low when he should soar.



Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 11:03 am
by Bi_3
Hopefully Come Back was dedicated to the Don

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 1:10 pm
by Captain Termite
Pilate sucks

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 1:54 pm
by Kevin Davis
daft twat wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Wish they'd cover this more in the style of NIN.
Or not at all. Love Ed, but that is not good.
It feels disorienting to hear Eddie, who seldom resists an opportunity to insert a curse word where a curse word previously was not, sing "crown of thorns" instead of "crown of shit."

I don't know what it is but, unless it's part of a tribute or something, it always feels weird to me when artists cover their close musical peers, i.e. '90's alt-rock bands covering other '90's alt-rock bands. Does anyone else feel this? It's not a strong aversion or anything, there's just something about it that I can't put my finger on.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 1:57 pm
by VinylGuy
i dont feel that way no. I think the cover works fine and im sure i would have been super happy to see it live.

Setlist seems good, kinda weird to see Black as opener. Immortality as a second song too.

But also getting Pilate, In My Tree, LBC seems great.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 1:58 pm
by Kevin Davis
VinylGuy wrote:i dont feel that way no. I think the cover works fine and im sure i would have been super happy to see it live.
I saw him do "Hurt" in Chicago at one of his solo shows (it might even be the one that Bi_3 links to above) -- it was cool but it felt very distinctly like he was covering the Johnny Cash version, and it reminded me of when bar bands do note-for-note covers of other bands' covers of other bands' songs (Hendrix's "Watchtower," PJ's "Last Kiss," etc.)

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 1:59 pm
by VinylGuy
i see.

Again, i wouldnt have an issue with that.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:04 pm
by wease
Kevin Davis wrote:
daft twat wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Wish they'd cover this more in the style of NIN.
Or not at all. Love Ed, but that is not good.
It feels disorienting to hear Eddie, who seldom resists an opportunity to insert a curse word where a curse word previously was not, sing "crown of thorns" instead of "crown of shit."

I don't know what it is but, unless it's part of a tribute or something, it always feels weird to me when artists cover their close musical peers, i.e. '90's alt-rock bands covering other '90's alt-rock bands. Does anyone else feel this? It's not a strong aversion or anything, there's just something about it that I can't put my finger on.
Hendrix did it all the time. I remember McCartney saying how home and a bunch of the other hot Brit musicians went to see one of his early shows in London and he opened with Sgt Pepper and McCartney was blown away because the album had just been released a day or two before.

As for the “crown of thorns” vs “shit” it almost has to be that he’s pulling from the Cash version rather than the NiN version since that’s what Johnny changed it to.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:09 pm
by wease
Captain Termite wrote:Pilate sucks
Goddammit

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:14 pm
by Kevin Davis
wease wrote:Hendrix did it all the time. I remember McCartney saying how home and a bunch of the other hot Brit musicians went to see one of his early shows in London and he opened with Sgt Pepper and McCartney was blown away because the album had just been released a day or two before.
Yeah, it was definitely more common in the '60's and before -- the cultural perception surrounding authorship of your own songs shifted significantly in the 1960's though and by the '90's it was virtually unheard of for mainstream artists to piggyback onto one of their peers' hit songs by doing a cover of it. Not saying it never happened, it just wasn't part of the language of music when I was growing up (and really hasn't been since). Again, not actively averse to it or anything, it just always strikes me differently when it happens.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:17 pm
by Captain Termite
Kevin Davis wrote:
daft twat wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Wish they'd cover this more in the style of NIN.
Or not at all. Love Ed, but that is not good.
It feels disorienting to hear Eddie, who seldom resists an opportunity to insert a curse word where a curse word previously was not, sing "crown of thorns" instead of "crown of shit."

I don't know what it is but, unless it's part of a tribute or something, it always feels weird to me when artists cover their close musical peers, i.e. '90's alt-rock bands covering other '90's alt-rock bands. Does anyone else feel this? It's not a strong aversion or anything, there's just something about it that I can't put my finger on.
It used to be really common in the 60's and 70's and then it fell out of fashion. In the 90's, alt-rock bands weren't covering each other at all, except for weird tags or tongue-in-cheek jokes. I think 90's punk bands were more likely to cover each other.

It would have been weird for Pearl Jam to cover a contemporary in 1994. It feels much less weird now that 30 years have passed.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:22 pm
by warehouse
i kinda like seeing peers cover each other's songs. i remember watching audioslave cover 'seven nation army' live and it was incredible.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:38 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, that cover was wild. Also i think Jack started to fan over Tom Morello´s stuff because of that cover.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 2:57 pm
by swan
I could take or leave the Hurt cover, but last night it was very clearly Ed’s choice for a Cornell tribute. Gave a little speech beforehand about the guest lists being huge when they play Seattle, but really wishing there was one more name on it. Said he can’t stop thinking about him. Very emotional moment.

They went right in to Inside Job from Hurt, that really felt to me like an extension of the Chris tribute. The video screens showed Matt’s back & he was wearing a shirt with a drawing of Chris’ face. Got a big cheer from the crowd.

Another really great show. Ed sang the words “the sky I scrape” in In My Tree for what felt like the first time in forever.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 3:10 pm
by Oversize
WtOB? wrote:
Oversize wrote:
WtOB? wrote:hopefully a stream rip turns up, i really liked the iem recording of sacramento.
I didn't realize there was an IED for Sac...point one in the right direction?
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/sho ... sacramento
thank you!

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 3:15 pm
by Bi_3
swan wrote: Another really great show. Ed sang the words “the sky I scrape” in In My Tree for what felt like the first time in forever.
Probably because "view your posts" works again.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 3:16 pm
by VinylGuy
Nice to know that....yeah the seattle shows were always emotional but they feel different after Chris´s suicide.

Re: 2024-05-30: Seattle, WA

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 3:19 pm
by MattA75
It never fails...they essentially have decided the two red headed stepchildren from the new record are my two favorite songs from the new record (Won't Tell / Got to Give)