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Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:07 pm
by Ensign9
Good interview with Garland at the end of yesterday's Big Picture pod.
Amanda and CR both loved the movie but also verbalized the "What's the point?" question. Sean is totally in love with it and was almost dismissive of any criticism.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 1:21 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 1:26 am
by BurtReynolds
Not sure I get the "what's the point?" criticism. I think it's telling a smaller, simpler story than maybe the setting implies.
But also it really says a lot about our
- Spoiler: show
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 12:14 am
by Mecca
Everyone was weirdly protective of the journalists in active war zones
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 3:17 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
That kept jumping out at me also. Like trag said, I obviously have no combat experience but in the scenes with the stakes as high as they were it seems to me that distraction could easily f up a mission.
Really enjoyed it overall though. I'm glad it left the political ideology mostly vague. Even if that makes it not overly substantial I think it was very effective in what it chose to focus on.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 11:55 am
by Mecca
I wish they wouldn’t have used up the Jesse Plemmons scene in the trailer, because even with some of the beats spoiled, it was still tense as hell
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 1:59 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
I love him so dang much
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 2:01 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Mecca wrote:I wish they wouldn’t have used up the Jesse Plemmons scene in the trailer, because even with some of the beats spoiled, it was still tense as hell
Yeah that scene was crazy tense.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 4:12 pm
by Mecca
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I love him so dang much
I think he would do well in a David Lynch production
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 4:53 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Mecca wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I love him so dang much
I think he would do well in a David Lynch production
Shirtless
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 5:01 pm
by Mecca
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Mecca wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I love him so dang much
I think he would do well in a David Lynch production
Shirtless
Did you watch season 2 of Fargo?
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 5:33 pm
by tommy
Mecca wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Mecca wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I love him so dang much
I think he would do well in a David Lynch production
Shirtless
Did you watch season 2 of Fargo?
Fargo is a movie, Mecca
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 5:56 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Mecca wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Mecca wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I love him so dang much
I think he would do well in a David Lynch production
Shirtless
Did you watch season 2 of Fargo?
Yes, yes I did.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Thu April 18, 2024 2:47 am
by Ensign9
Mecca wrote:Everyone was weirdly protective of the journalists in active war zones
I think Sean brought that up on the pod. These rebels know media is critical in winning hearts and minds. They probably think of it more like social media than journalism.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Thu April 18, 2024 1:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Thu April 18, 2024 2:01 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tragabigzanda wrote:Ensign9 wrote:Mecca wrote:Everyone was weirdly protective of the journalists in active war zones
I think Sean brought that up on the pod. These rebels know media is critical in winning hearts and minds. They probably think of it more like social media than journalism.
Ah, this makes sense…Seems like they could’ve made it a bit more obvious for pea brains like me with a simple line of dialogue.
Yeah I must have missed that too, though I did figure something in that vein is the most likely reasoning
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Sat April 20, 2024 12:57 am
by Jorge
Wow, very good movie. Few flashes of blandness, particularly during dialogue scenes early on, but it ramps up into something visceral. Very glad Garland didn't fully ditch the visual approach that made Men so special for me.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Sat April 20, 2024 1:03 am
by Jorge
I personally didn't bump into "what's the point'" at all. The movie's theme was very repeatedly underlined and this brief, focused story is a great framing device for them.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Sat April 20, 2024 9:01 pm
by epilogue
Garland lays out his own politics and the what and why of the movie (and why he wrote it) in great detail during a conversation on the most recent episode of Pod Save America (this past Thursday's ep), if anyone is interested.
I still haven't seen the movie but I loved the conversation Alex and Favs had. Worth a listen, even if --- especially if? --- your politics don't align with those typically expressed by the pod and it's hosts.
Re: Civil War (2024)
Posted: Sat April 20, 2024 9:15 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Thanks, but I don't think I want to know.