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Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 2:57 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
Another week, another sick Jeffery TD.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 5:56 pm
by Chris_H_2
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 6:11 pm
by pnjguy
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 6:29 pm
by Chris_H_2
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 7:00 pm
by pnjguy
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 4:12 am
by Kaius
I'm sure someone's going to point out how wrong I am, because I really don't know what I'm talking about, but I think we should franchise Cutler to buy another year, resign McCown to a decent 1 or 2 year deal, and draft nothing but defensive guys.

Unless we make the playoffs, he D gets hot, and we go deep. If Cutler pulls an Eli it's a different story.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 2:39 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.
Why can't McCown get a raise from the Bears?

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 2:44 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
Kaius wrote:I'm sure someone's going to point out how wrong I am, because I really don't know what I'm talking about, but I think we should franchise Cutler to buy another year, resign McCown to a decent 1 or 2 year deal, and draft nothing but defensive guys.

Unless we make the playoffs, he D gets hot, and we go deep. If Cutler pulls an Eli it's a different story.
Financially it's a bad move to franchise the QB this season (typically its bad to franchise a QB). Cutler would get somewhere between $16-18M, but the salary cap implications would be what really matters and would hamper their ability to resign players or get new FAs. When a player signs a multiyear deal, their salary cap hit can be spread out over the contract, whereas the Franchise tag would be very large for a single year.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 6:51 pm
by pnjguy
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.
Why can't McCown get a raise from the Bears?
He can, but they can't do it before free agency opens where he'll likely be given more years and money by other teams.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 6:58 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.
Why can't McCown get a raise from the Bears?
He can, but they can't do it before free agency opens where he'll likely be given more years and money by other teams.
IF you admit he can get a raise, why did you say the bears can't give more than the minimum?

The Bears can negotiate with McCown, they just can't sign him until FA begins.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 7:13 pm
by pnjguy
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.
Why can't McCown get a raise from the Bears?
He can, but they can't do it before free agency opens where he'll likely be given more years and money by other teams.
IF you admit he can get a raise, why did you say the bears can't give more than the minimum?

The Bears can negotiate with McCown, they just can't sign him until FA begins.
The reports have been choppy. More info today on it.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 7:46 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.
Why can't McCown get a raise from the Bears?
He can, but they can't do it before free agency opens where he'll likely be given more years and money by other teams.
IF you admit he can get a raise, why did you say the bears can't give more than the minimum?

The Bears can negotiate with McCown, they just can't sign him until FA begins.
The reports have been choppy. More info today on it.
Honestly I think McCown will stay, accept a decent raise to stay in a good situation with Trestman, his offensive system and Offensive firepower of the Bears. He prob won't get close to that in another situation. Unless another team offers him an enormous contract, but I'm sure that previous list will be factored into other GM's thought processes.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 8:02 pm
by pnjguy
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.
Why can't McCown get a raise from the Bears?
He can, but they can't do it before free agency opens where he'll likely be given more years and money by other teams.
IF you admit he can get a raise, why did you say the bears can't give more than the minimum?

The Bears can negotiate with McCown, they just can't sign him until FA begins.
The reports have been choppy. More info today on it.
Honestly I think McCown will stay, accept a decent raise to stay in a good situation with Trestman, his offensive system and Offensive firepower of the Bears. He prob won't get close to that in another situation. Unless another team offers him an enormous contract, but I'm sure that previous list will be factored into other GM's thought processes.
Same situation with Cutler. With all that he's been saying, sounds like Cutler will stay for less to be in this good situation.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 8:05 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I can't think of any conceivable reason to start Cutler when he gets back. I can't believe this is even a consideration.
Really, no reason at all?
This would have been good if not for the timing of the date/time stamp.
Regardless of the outcome, I think you have to find out if and how much you're going to pay Cutler at the end of the year. You don't find that out if he's on the bench.
You think they played Cutler this past weekend to find out how much they need to pay him next year? Really?
I think they played him because they have no idea if he's the answer as much as they want him to be.

Also, the Bears can't give McCown more than the minimum next year so he's as good as gone.
Why can't McCown get a raise from the Bears?
He can, but they can't do it before free agency opens where he'll likely be given more years and money by other teams.
IF you admit he can get a raise, why did you say the bears can't give more than the minimum?

The Bears can negotiate with McCown, they just can't sign him until FA begins.
The reports have been choppy. More info today on it.
Honestly I think McCown will stay, accept a decent raise to stay in a good situation with Trestman, his offensive system and Offensive firepower of the Bears. He prob won't get close to that in another situation. Unless another team offers him an enormous contract, but I'm sure that previous list will be factored into other GM's thought processes.
Same situation with Cutler. With all that he's been saying, sounds like Cutler will stay for less to be in this good situation.
Yeah I think so. I think he wants the SB and probably doesn't want to change OCs again - nor leave the talent in Chicago (where he is the undisputed starter).

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 3:39 pm
by spike
it's always adorable watching bears fans talk all optimistic and stuff.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 3:44 pm
by pnjguy
spike wrote:it's always adorable watching bears fans talk all optimistic and stuff.
There's a lot to be excited about. We have a big boy offense that makes me touch myself in odd places.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 3:46 pm
by spike
pnjguy wrote:
spike wrote:it's always adorable watching bears fans talk all optimistic and stuff.
There's a lot to be excited about. We have a big boy offense that makes me touch myself in odd places.
i just wanna pinch your little cheeks!

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 3:46 pm
by EJ
pnjguy wrote:
spike wrote:it's always adorable watching bears fans talk all optimistic and stuff.
There's a lot to be excited about. We have a big boy offense that makes me touch myself in odd places.
:thumbsup:

As long as they make the playoffs, its all good.

No one's beating Seattle in their house.

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 3:47 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
spike wrote:it's always adorable watching bears fans talk all optimistic and stuff.
:?: Where is the optimism that makes you feel so fuzzy inside?

Re: The Chicago Bears

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 3:47 pm
by spike
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
spike wrote:it's always adorable watching bears fans talk all optimistic and stuff.
:?: Where is the optimism that makes you feel so fuzzy inside?
;)