Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:Unfortunately the rest of "Mind Your Manners" is ridiculous

I like Mike's guitar solo very much.

yeah, agreed, mike's work on this song is fantastic.

it's just hard for me to get over the Berenstain Bears chorus.

Songs I like on the last two records in a very approximate order of preference:

Speed of Sound
Johnny Guitar
My Father's Son
Let the Records Play
The Fixer
Gonna See My Friend

I go back and forth on Mind Your Manners.

Pendulum is terrible and I'm mystified why people continue to rank it so highly. It's really bad, so much worse than Just Breathe.

The production renders all of this junk unlistenable anyway.

The intro of Mind Your Manners is bad.

Johnny Guitar
Got Some
Yellow Moon
Speed of Sound
My Father's Son
Force of Nature
Lightning Bolt
The Fixer
Sirens
Getaway
Sleeping By Myself
Amongst the Waves
Infallible
Swallowed Whole
Supersonic
Pendulum
Gonna See My Friend
Let the Records Play
Mind Your Manners
The End
Unthought Known
Just Breathe
Future Days

Birds in Hell wrote: The production renders all of this junk unlistenable anyway.

Fact: You can listen to BS and LB on a handheld toy radio and they will sound the same as listening on a $5000 stereo system

bodysnatcher wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote: The production renders all of this junk unlistenable anyway.

Fact: You can listen to BS and LB on a handheld toy radio and they will sound the same as listening on a $5000 stereo system

I believe it.

I listen to tons of music and really find the production on those two records uniquely bad and downright weird, I've never heard anything quite like it.

Birds in Hell wrote:Songs I like on the last two records in a very approximate order of preference:

Speed of Sound
Johnny Guitar
My Father's Son
Let the Records Play
The Fixer
Gonna See My Friend

I go back and forth on Mind Your Manners.

Pendulum is terrible and I'm mystified why people continue to rank it so highly. It's really bad, so much worse than Just Breathe.

The production renders all of this junk unlistenable anyway.

I'm not a fan of either album, but mostly because of the songs themselves. What is it about the production that is so bad? I normally listen to music via my computer via some USB powered JBL Pebbles. If a lot of people get there music this way or in a similar fashion via streaming and listening on headphones / earbuds, are the last two PJ albums just geared for this type of use? What specifically would you say is wrong with the production? I assume loudness is a factor as that seems to be the case with most albums these days, is that a factor and if so, what else?

tragabigzanda wrote:I'll chime in, but would love to hear Spenno's thoughts. To me, everything is super flat: There's no sense of space or depth, there's no odd little nuggets of sound to reward you for repeat listens, and everything is the same volume. There's shitty reverb on Ed's vox throughout, which are all captured with a condenser mic (accentuating his modern breathiness), and all the guitars are EQ'd super weird, like they were going for a modern rock sound, but cut out all the balls in the process. The drums and bass mostly sound fine to me, if a little sterile and uninteresting.

The Colbert performance is better than the studio take. It has more urgency, intensity, and rawk.

Sterile and uninteresting sounds about right to me. The depth you mentioned too. I don't feel that way at all with No Code / Yield / Binaural / Riot Act, but yeah, the last two seem kinda hollow.

This performance is so uninspired. The playing is rudimentary at best. Jeff and Matt are the main offenders. The organ is truly awful.

If this appeared on an Ed solo release with competent session musos it could possibly be bearable.

Awful.

Aw huh.

I don't think Matt is even on the track

theplatypus wrote:I don't think Matt is even on the track

unfortunately not. because if he was it'd be twice as fast and over twice as quickly.

The only songs I actively enjoy from BS and LB, ranked:

The Fixer
Got Some
Future Days
My Father's Son
Gonna See My Friend
Getaway
Sleeping by Myself

bodysnatcher wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I don't think Matt is even on the track

unfortunately not. because if he was it'd be twice as fast and over twice as quickly.

Really who cares?

jack irons would have made this song so much better






probably bc he would have been like, "stfu guys, this song sucks" then just bust out with a tribal beat on some empty oil drums.

bodysnatcher wrote:jack irons would have made this song so much better






probably bc he would have been like, "stfu guys, this song sucks" then just bust out with a tribal beat on some empty oil drums.

Fuck yeah!

I'm trying to think of songs I like off the last two records, but I'm struggling.

So far I have:

Got Some
Speed Of Sound
Mind Your Manners
Pendulum
Sleeping By Myself

I'm actually on the fence with Just Breathe, among others. I haven't listened to either album in quite some time, and have no desire to. I think I remember being slightly interested in Johnny Guitar and My Father's Son.