Red Mosquito

I asked that one the first page but nobody responded...

C'mon guys, enough Dirty Frank. I want some groovy playlists.

Leatherhead wrote:C'mon guys, enough Dirty Frank. I want some groovy playlists.

Birds in Hell wrote:

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

harmless wrote:

Chloe wrote:Groovy, as in funk sounding?
Dirty Frank takes that one...

I didn't name Dirty Frank because I think it tries too hard to be groovy, and in the process, isn't. Really. At the time, RHCP was more groovy, and this song simply rips them off.

It's not so much a rip-off as a direct homage.

That would depend on how much you like it, I guess.

I don't see how that matters either way.

What I mean is that's it's meant to sound like RHCP, the similarity is entirely intentional.

OK, yeah I can buy that. But I don't use "rip-off" to just mean unintentional. You can rip something off deliberately, so in a sense, it's just a slightly more negative version of the same word.

Leatherhead wrote:C'mon guys, enough Dirty Frank. I want some groovy playlists.

I'm not capable of participating since I clearly didn't understand what was meant by groovy

Chloe wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:C'mon guys, enough Dirty Frank. I want some groovy playlists.

I'm not capable of participating since I clearly didn't understand what was meant by groovy

All that matters IS your own interpretation of groovy.

Leatherhead wrote:

Chloe wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:C'mon guys, enough Dirty Frank. I want some groovy playlists.

I'm not capable of participating since I clearly didn't understand what was meant by groovy

All that matters IS your own interpretation of groovy.

Clearly not... didn't you just say Dirty Frank wasn't groovy?

Chloe wrote:I asked that one the first page but nobody responded...

For me, a "groovy" song is one which has a prominent presence from, or is led by, the rhythm section... drums and / or bass. It can be one of a variety of rhythms, but should contain some kind of angular rhythms, accents, pushes, or time changes etc. which drive the song in an important way (as opposed to any other aspect of the music). If you're not *just* admiring vocals / guitars / anything in the "middle" of the music, but the "low-end" of the music encourages you to nod your head, sway, "dance" in any way whatsoever, you're probably finding the music groovy.

Chloe wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:

Chloe wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:C'mon guys, enough Dirty Frank. I want some groovy playlists.

I'm not capable of participating since I clearly didn't understand what was meant by groovy

All that matters IS your own interpretation of groovy.

Clearly not... didn't you just say Dirty Frank wasn't groovy?

I thought he said that it wasn't groovy just because it's "funk". A lot of people assume it's not groovy unless it's funky. Funk music is the most sure-fire way of sounding groovy, so has become kind of a "groove" cliche.

harmless wrote:

Chloe wrote:I asked that one the first page but nobody responded...

For me, a "groovy" song is one which has a prominent presence from, or is led by, the rhythm section... drums and / or bass. It can be one of a variety of rhythms, but should contain some kind of angular rhythms, accents, pushes, or time changes etc. which drive the song in an important way (as opposed to any other aspect of the music). If you're not *just* admiring vocals / guitars / anything in the "middle" of the music, but the "low-end" of the music encourages you to nod your head, sway, "dance" in any way whatsoever, you're probably finding the music groovy.

Like I said, the swing in Red Mosquito is just fantastic. It makes that song to me--it has that push and pull.

"Cold Confession" is groovy as well.

harmless wrote:

Chloe wrote:I asked that one the first page but nobody responded...

For me, a "groovy" song is one which has a prominent presence from, or is led by, the rhythm section... drums and / or bass. It can be one of a variety of rhythms, but should contain some kind of angular rhythms, accents, pushes, or time changes etc. which drive the song in an important way (as opposed to any other aspect of the music). If you're not *just* admiring vocals / guitars / anything in the "middle" of the music, but the "low-end" of the music encourages you to nod your head, sway, "dance" in any way whatsoever, you're probably finding the music groovy.

Fair enough. When I think of something being groovy, that word is usually interchangeable with funky. That does make sense, harmless. Thanks for the breakdown.

I do go back and read the post, and for me groovy and funky are the same. He didn't say the song wasn't funky.

harmless wrote:

Chloe wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:

Chloe wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:C'mon guys, enough Dirty Frank. I want some groovy playlists.

I'm not capable of participating since I clearly didn't understand what was meant by groovy

All that matters IS your own interpretation of groovy.

Clearly not... didn't you just say Dirty Frank wasn't groovy?

I thought he said that it wasn't groovy just because it's "funk". A lot of people assume it's not groovy unless it's funky. Funk music is the most sure-fire way of sounding groovy, so has become kind of a "groove" cliche.

This. And yea, when I find myself nodding my head very noddingly, I probably find it groovy.

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

Chloe wrote:I asked that one the first page but nobody responded...

For me, a "groovy" song is one which has a prominent presence from, or is led by, the rhythm section... drums and / or bass. It can be one of a variety of rhythms, but should contain some kind of angular rhythms, accents, pushes, or time changes etc. which drive the song in an important way (as opposed to any other aspect of the music). If you're not *just* admiring vocals / guitars / anything in the "middle" of the music, but the "low-end" of the music encourages you to nod your head, sway, "dance" in any way whatsoever, you're probably finding the music groovy.

Like I said, the swing in Red Mosquito is just fantastic. It makes that song to me--it has that push and pull.

I agree. It's got a real lazy lilt to it. I'm not sure if I put it in my list. I should have, if not.

harmless wrote:"Cold Confession" is groovy as well.

mmmhhmm

harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

harmless wrote:

Chloe wrote:I asked that one the first page but nobody responded...

For me, a "groovy" song is one which has a prominent presence from, or is led by, the rhythm section... drums and / or bass. It can be one of a variety of rhythms, but should contain some kind of angular rhythms, accents, pushes, or time changes etc. which drive the song in an important way (as opposed to any other aspect of the music). If you're not *just* admiring vocals / guitars / anything in the "middle" of the music, but the "low-end" of the music encourages you to nod your head, sway, "dance" in any way whatsoever, you're probably finding the music groovy.

Like I said, the swing in Red Mosquito is just fantastic. It makes that song to me--it has that push and pull.

I agree. It's got a real lazy lilt to it. I'm not sure if I put it in my list. I should have, if not.

Absolutely. "lazy lilt" sums it up perfectly.

Did I mention "My Father's Son" also? By my definition, I should have.

WMA
Rats
Glorified G
Who You Are
In My Tree
No Way
Push Me, Pull Me
Rival
Cropduster
You Are
Get Right
In the Moonlight
Army Reserve
Johnny Guitar
Infallible

bluestate wrote:WMA
Rats
Glorified G
Who You Are
In My Tree
No Way
Push Me, Pull Me
Rival
Cropduster
You Are
Get Right
In the Moonlight
Army Reserve
Johnny Guitar
Infallible

Nice!

bluestate wrote:WMA
Rats
Glorified G
Who You Are
In My Tree
No Way
Push Me, Pull Me
Rival
Cropduster
You Are
Get Right
In the Moonlight
Army Reserve
Johnny Guitar
Infallible

I'll take a live set with all of those included, any day. I've seen PJ seven times and not heard 10 of those tunes live.