While this news is very disheartening, I think we need to cut him a bit of a break. I think this decision was (most likely) based on the fact that PJ likely have more touring planned for 2014 than SG does right now, given that LB just came out a month ago and King Animal came out in late 2012. I mean I'm shocked me made it this far working/touring with both bands, it has to be pretty taxing with the travel alone...just my 2 cents. I'm heartbroken, too, though trust me--I also much prefer him with SG, but he's pretty damn good with PJ too.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 8:42 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I think he needs to get Wellwater up and running again.
That was a serious post, btw.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 8:49 pm
by VinylGuy
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I think he needs to get Wellwater up and running again.
That was a serious post, btw.
Matt Cameron quits WWC for their tour in 2014. And Hater. And Harrybu Mccage.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 10:19 pm
by Birds in Hell
DeLima wrote:
LuNY wrote:"I will be taking 2014 off from Soundgarden touring due to prior commitments promoting "Lightning Bolt" with my brothers in Pearl Jam and the desire to have more time at home with my family. I am trying to balance the many twists and turns of my awesome music career. This is temporary. I am still an active member of Soundgarden. Chris, Ben, Kim and I are in the process of finding the perfect substitute for the upcoming Soundgarden dates in 2014.
Thank you all for listening and the Years of Support!
Loudest of Love.
Matt Cameron"
Nobody fucked anything up, all is well.
no, see, he fucked up.
Yeah, he really did.
Jesus, Matt.
Holy shit, dude.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 10:19 pm
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:Superunknown is really the only soundgarden record I like a lot from start to finish. Other than that they've always been a band that produced a number of songs I loved and a whole bunch of stuff I just didn't give a shit about. Alice in Chains (who I liked more) was the same way. This was different than Pearl Jam, Nirvana, or the Trees where I was usually interested in listening to everything.
I need some kind of selective foe function that just blocks stip's posts about Soundgarden.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 11:17 pm
by stip
if it makes you feel any better I think King Animal was pretty good and I think the last two AIC records are terrible.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Fri November 15, 2013 11:19 pm
by Birds in Hell
That doesn't help at all!
I think King Animal is much better than either of the last two Pearl Jam records and I even kind of liked that last AiC album.
Either way, this is a thread for bemoaning Matt's regrettable decisions, not debating the relative merits of his bands.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 2:09 am
by sherpahigh
They should get Dave Grohl to fill in for the year.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 3:00 am
by Dev
pretty obvious that his loyalty would be to pearl jam at this point.
How is this surprising? It isn't even a choice really...
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 3:02 am
by Dev
Anders wrote:Josh Freese, if he wants to.
that would be cool
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 7:46 am
by Fuzzcharger
I like the Barrett Martin idea too.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 7:50 am
by matt reeder
On the human side I completely understand it; I'm sure PJ already have their dates booked (even if we don't know what they are yet) and SG just announced a handful of shows (6 for next year so far). This almost certainly tells me that PJ are touring Europe next summer and Matt cannot be in 2 places at once.
On the other hand, it isn't Soundgarden without Matt Cameron. I don't care who the replacement is (unless it's Chris Cornell).
I'm with everyone else wondering why PJ couldn't do even a single tour with Jack Irons (if he were willing). I mean, 75% of their set is stuff Jack played when he was in the band. I'm sure he could learn a dozen or so other songs from their more recent catalogue if he had to.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 9:39 am
by Birds in Hell
matt reeder wrote:
On the other hand, it isn't Soundgarden without Matt Cameron. I don't care who the replacement is (unless it's Chris Cornell).
Somewhere, Scott Sundquist waits anxiously by the phone...
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 11:27 am
by stip
matt reeder wrote:On the human side I completely understand it; I'm sure PJ already have their dates booked (even if we don't know what they are yet) and SG just announced a handful of shows (6 for next year so far). This almost certainly tells me that PJ are touring Europe next summer and Matt cannot be in 2 places at once.
On the other hand, it isn't Soundgarden without Matt Cameron. I don't care who the replacement is (unless it's Chris Cornell).
I'm with everyone else wondering why PJ couldn't do even a single tour with Jack Irons (if he were willing). I mean, 75% of their set is stuff Jack played when he was in the band. I'm sure he could learn a dozen or so other songs from their more recent catalogue if he had to.
Endurance, I think.
Plus Jack Irons was in the band for like 3 years 15 years ago. I know people like his two records and everything, but I think the odds are probably much greater that someone else other than Jack would have replaced Matt anyway
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 2:50 pm
by bada
If I was Matt I would have made the same decision. The more lucrative of the two bands happens to be the band where he is the most replaceable. You let those guys know they are your priority.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 9:34 pm
by koopee27
.. by joining PJ..
kp
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sat November 16, 2013 9:46 pm
by harmless
Now we'll never know what PJ sounds like with Matt Chamberlain or Loel Campbell on the drums.
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sun November 17, 2013 12:24 am
by stip
harmless wrote:Now we'll never know what PJ sounds like with Matt Chamberlain or Loel Campbell on the drums.
They'll always play corduroy at the proper speed in our minds
Re: Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys
Posted: Sun November 17, 2013 12:30 am
by Birds in Hell
harmless wrote:Now we'll never know what PJ sounds like with Matt Chamberlain ... on the drums.