Red Mosquito

Really glad I got the threads merged.

Lounge Lizard wrote:

harmless wrote:So any progressive, intelligent believer with a faith that is anti-prejudice and concerned with social justice, is just a dickhead to you huh?

No, of course not. Intelligent people can be afraid too, it's perfectly understandable. There is certainly a percentage (albeit a small one) among professors and distinguished scientists who are still clinging on to some sort of religious faith. Doesn't make them worse at what they do, in most cases at least. I hope

I used to believe that, but the smartest and wisest person I ever knew (one of my grad school professors) was a devout believer, and that forced me to rethink this

stip wrote:I used to believe that, but the smartest and wisest person I ever knew (one of my grad school professors) was a devout believer, and that forced me to rethink this

Then you simply haven't met a wiser and smarter person. Yet.

Good lord.

Well I was intrigued. From Celebrityathiest.com, surely a reliable source. Natalie Portman! Lance Armstrong! Eddie Vedder!




This is Janeane Garofalo. I'm interviewing Eddie Vedder and we're at Brendan's, on the Lower East Side.

JG: Can I ask what your feelings are about God?

EV: Sure. I think it's like a movie that was way too popular. It's a story that's been told too many times and just doesn't mean anything. Man lived on the planet -- [placing his fingers an inch apart], this is 5000 years of semi-recorded history. And God and the Bible, that came in somewhere around the middle, maybe 2000. This is the last 2000, this is what we're about to celebrate [indicating about an 1/8th of an inch with his fingers]. Now, humans, in some shape or form, have been on the earth for three million years [pointing across the room to indicate the distance]. So, all this time, from there [gesturing toward the other side of the room], to here [indicating the 1/8th of an inch], there was no God, there was no story, there was no myth and people lived on this planet and they wandered and they gathered and they did all these things. The planet was never threatened. How did they survive for all this time without this belief in God? I'd like to ask this to someone who knows about Christianity and maybe you do. That just seems funny to me.

JG: Funny ha-ha or funny strange?

EV: Funny strange. Funny bad. Funny frown. Not good. That laws are made and wars occur because of this story that was written, again, in this small part of time.


Which is a fairly typical Edesque ramble. But more to the point:




At a July 22, 1998 Pearl Jam concert in Seattle's Memorial Stadium, Vedder said about the unusually beautiful weather, "I would thank God, but I don't believe in it."


This has nothing to do with Tremor Christ but I was interested.

Birds in Hell wrote:Good lord.

I think this statement may have disqualified you from being allowed to listen to Pearl Jam. Sorry bad luck.

Birds in Hell wrote:Good lord.

This is my fault, spenno.

I'm really glad stip finally got to meet Lounge Lizard.

I know I mentioned this in a previous thread that turned into a Tremor Christ discussion, but this is the song where I think Pearl Jam does their finest job of working their postpunk influences into something uniquely "Pearl Jam." I hear the early PiL albums, Wire, even some Joy Division in this track. Jeff's work is phenomenal on this. This is one of those songs you can break out when someone tries to tell you PJ is a dumb, unoriginal rock band. It's off-kilter and weird without self-consciously trying to be so. Such an amazing song.

Top of the fucking heap. This song is a monster.

5 stars

Top 3 for me. Number 1 on any given day

This song is the balls.

It doesn't get much better than this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VU3EcxHXM

PHATJ wrote:It doesn't get much better than this.

FTFY

And yeah, it's an excellent version of the song. The band really should play it more often. Did they play it at all this last tour?

darth_vedder wrote:

PHATJ wrote:It doesn't get much better than this.

FTFY

And yeah, it's an excellent version of the song. The band really should play it more often. Did they play it at all this last tour?

Once or twice. Once for sure because some dudes had "Tremor" and "Christ" written on their forehead, so EV obliged.

Lament wrote:I know I mentioned this in a previous thread that turned into a Tremor Christ discussion, but this is the song where I think Pearl Jam does their finest job of working their postpunk influences into something uniquely "Pearl Jam." I hear the early PiL albums, Wire, even some Joy Division in this track. Jeff's work is phenomenal on this. This is one of those songs you can break out when someone tries to tell you PJ is a dumb, unoriginal rock band. It's off-kilter and weird without self-consciously trying to be so. Such an amazing song.

great way of putting it

evenslow wrote:

Lament wrote:I know I mentioned this in a previous thread that turned into a Tremor Christ discussion, but this is the song where I think Pearl Jam does their finest job of working their postpunk influences into something uniquely "Pearl Jam." I hear the early PiL albums, Wire, even some Joy Division in this track. Jeff's work is phenomenal on this. This is one of those songs you can break out when someone tries to tell you PJ is a dumb, unoriginal rock band. It's off-kilter and weird without self-consciously trying to be so. Such an amazing song.

great way of putting it

Yup. It's easily one of my favorites by the band. I think it even makes my top 3.

Top 2 track for me. This track is damn near perfection.

Tremor Christ is one of the best songs on one of the best albums of all time.