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Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 6:42 am
by Iholdthepain
Strat wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:Just heard CC for the first time ever... WoW! What a tough day in the iso-booth for Mr. Vedder! He definitely smoked one too many American Spirits that day. The song may be good, musically, but I can definitely see why they didn't want it released. Not only are the vocals an in-studio train wreck, but Ed rubs your nose in the shit at the end, like he thinks he's a fucking Pavarotti or something... and it's too much like Army Reserve, too.
Dead Man, on the other hand, is indeed a top-shelf PJ song.
nO way. Vedders vocals are intentional with that tune. Perfect.
Sounds like a grudge match to me, and the vocal chords lost. I guess I need to know the emotional reasons for some of these songs, because heartstring tugs seem to have a lot of sway 'round here.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 6:45 am
by Jorge
Iholdthepain wrote:heartstring tugs seem to have a lot of sway 'round here.
It's music, bro. Emotion is everything.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 6:50 am
by Iholdthepain
theplatypus wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:heartstring tugs seem to have a lot of sway 'round here.
It's music, bro. Emotion is everything.
Interpretation counts, too... All he said before rolling the tape was "This is an experiment." I thought it was a bad experiment. If it helps, every time I hear the "Lost 9 friends we'll never know..." line, I feel bad for the band.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 6:54 am
by Jorge
I'm talking about the vocals in "Cold Confession", I think you're talking about "Arc".
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 6:57 am
by Iholdthepain
theplatypus wrote:I'm talking about the vocals in "Cold Confession", I think you're talking about "Arc".
Yep, losing track here... Like I said, just heard CC for the first time. I don't know shit about the meaning and emotion. Just my first impression. Either way, DM would get my vote.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 10:19 am
by stip
The vocals on cc sound perfect for the song. I love them
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 10:31 am
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:The vocals on cc sound perfect for the song. I love them
Agreed, they're fantastic.
One of Ed's best recorded performances.
What the hell, Cold Confession it is.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 10:46 am
by stip
This song and let it ride dropped the day mia was born. We were in the hospital for 3 days and this song got a lot of play walking back and forth between our room and the convenience store down the block
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 10:47 am
by Iholdthepain
2nd listen, to see WTF I'm missing.
Too much Boom, terrible ending... like he's failing miserably to channel the same spirit of 'The Wolf' ... Music's tight, though, and there are good, soulful melodies lost in the shards of Ed's voice. I'd love to hear what a Norah Jones-type singer would do for this song. I'm sure it's a deep, dark personal song, oozing with so much emotion that I don't know about. I have no idea how you can otherwise like that vocal performance.
To each his reach.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 12:26 pm
by stupidmop
This is just cruel
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 1:22 pm
by CopperTom
Cold Confession. I assumed it would go quite far given the love it gets.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 1:36 pm
by Thejambi
cutuphalfdead wrote:Cold Confession is pretty good, especially when held up against most other songs of it's era. However, Dead Man is top tier Pearl Jam.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 3:07 pm
by EJ
This one's really close for me. Need a few more listens today.
DM is really, really good. Strong haunting lyrics, delivery, and Jeff's work here is pretty outstanding.
CC has that smoky vibe that I really like. Ed's voice is perfectly suited to this song. And, maybe the best Boom performance to date? Never thought I'd acknowledge him. Wish we had a finished version of it to really compare. As it is though, its a very good song.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 4:10 pm
by stip
oh for fucks sake, has deadman really pulled ahead of cold confession?
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 4:13 pm
by tommymtcom
stip wrote:oh for fucks sake, has deadman really pulled ahead of cold confession?
Dead man is a great song, Stip. Get it together.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 4:14 pm
by Thejambi
As it should.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 4:21 pm
by epilogue
Birds in Hell wrote:stip wrote:The vocals on cc sound perfect for the song. I love them
Agreed, they're fantastic.
One of Ed's best recorded performances.
What the hell, Cold Confession it is.
You did the right thing, Spence.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 4:35 pm
by bada
Birds in Hell wrote:stip wrote:The vocals on cc sound perfect for the song. I love them
Agreed, they're fantastic.
One of Ed's best recorded performances.
What the hell, Cold Confession it is.
Go listen to the Dead Man on your 2006 Euro mix you'll change your mind!
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 4:36 pm
by epilogue
I don't consider either song a top tier PJ song. But I think they're both really lovely songs, and both achieve, I think, exactly what they're going for. I just really love Ed's performance on CC. That's the tie-breaker here for me.
Re: Match AR: Cold Confession vs. Dead Man
Posted: Fri March 07, 2014 4:37 pm
by epilogue
bada wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:stip wrote:The vocals on cc sound perfect for the song. I love them
Agreed, they're fantastic.
One of Ed's best recorded performances.
What the hell, Cold Confession it is.
Go listen to the Dead Man on your 2006 Euro mix you'll change your mind!
Oh yeah, I'm only taking into account the studio versions of all these songs -- or at least, the ones that have studio versions.