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Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 9:07 pm
by Norah
That's because they were consistently great that tour,

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 9:11 pm
by digster
Most of their Binaural stuff was best in 2000. Hate to beat that drum, but it's probably because they were practicing them. You can't really toss out a Sleight of Hand or Evacuation without an rehearsal in the same way you maybe could with Gonna See My Friend or Supersonic.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 9:12 pm
by darth_vedder
stip wrote:I think there is no single song that suffers more in the transition from studio to live than insignificance. The studio version is vastly superior--the explosive claustrophobic dynamics of the song seem to be impossible to replicate.
I agree. The studio is where it's at. This song is the kind of "rock" I like from Pearl Jam. The 2:20ish mark to the end of the song is some of the best work I've ever heard Pearl Jam do.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 9:12 pm
by McParadigm
It WAS a great tour in terms of playing, Ed's voice, and the lack of popularity-pleading/showboating.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 9:13 pm
by darth_vedder
stip wrote:there have never been any real standouts that I recall.
I don't know if it's the best version, but Katowice 2 is pretty good.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 9:18 pm
by McParadigm
The only show from that tour I've actually listened to in the last 10 years is probably Milan.

Or, maybe Vegas? Somewhere in the US that isn't a Jones or a Beach, anyway.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 9:46 pm
by EJ
stip wrote:there have never been any real standouts that I recall.
Koln 2000

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 10:22 pm
by darth_vedder
McParadigm wrote:The only show from that tour I've actually listened to in the last 10 years is probably Milan.

Or, maybe Vegas? Somewhere in the US that isn't a Jones or a Beach, anyway.
If you have them, check out Katowice 2 and Lubbock. Both are great, and the latter is really underrated. Lubbock was a fine night for Pearl Jam.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 10:42 pm
by bodysnatcher
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Insignificance.

Best PJ song of the Matt Cameron era.
Agreed. And, worthy of winning this whole thing.
I'm surprised this doesn't get played more often

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 11:11 pm
by ---
MadTIGERmaN wrote:especially considering some of us have over 100 live versions of some songs
god it's great to be alive

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 11:15 pm
by Simple Torture
I'm voting for the best use of a rest in the band's entire catalogue.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 11:25 pm
by Lament
Simple Torture wrote:I'm voting for the best use of a rest in the band's entire catalogue.
The moment after Future Days ends?

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Mon March 17, 2014 11:33 pm
by Simple Torture
Lament wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:I'm voting for the best use of a rest in the band's entire catalogue.
The moment after Future Days ends?
:thumbsup:

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Tue March 18, 2014 12:24 am
by 96583UP
cutuphalfdead wrote:Most live versions of No Way suck and I still voted for it over Animal.
that's why i voted for animal

no way only exists on headphones

its basically perfect on headphones

but cannot exist in the real world

insignificance has a similar issue. the live versions just don't make my peen tingle the way the studio version does

but animal thrashes my junk like a cheap slut in a conjugal visit trailer

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Tue March 18, 2014 12:40 am
by Norah
No Way sounds great on a stereo too.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Tue March 18, 2014 2:59 am
by MadTIGERmaN
McParadigm wrote:
MadTIGERmaN wrote:I dont see how you cant consider live versions of the song to a point...
ugh
when youre talking about Pearl Jam, a band more known for its live shows than studio recordings over the last few years
UGH
and especially considering some of us have over 100 live versions of some songs, and have no doubt heard the live versions more than the studio.
UGH

Thanks for explaining why im in the wrong even though virtually every post in this thread since your in depth analysis has been about the live versions of songs. Right...


One of the Chicago shows post 2000 has a pretty decent version of Insignificance I believe? crowd was pretty into it on the floor too.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Tue March 18, 2014 5:09 am
by Kevin Davis
McParadigm seems to genuinely hate the idea of bands playing live.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Tue March 18, 2014 9:16 am
by Heathen
Kevin Davis wrote:McParadigm seems to genuinely hate the idea of bands playing live.
Wait... McP = geg :shock:

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Tue March 18, 2014 10:15 am
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:McParadigm seems to genuinely hate the idea of bands playing live.
Part of McParadigm died when bad as me came out. Since then he lost the capacity to love.

Re: Match CX: Insignificance vs. Angel

Posted: Tue March 18, 2014 12:54 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:McParadigm seems to genuinely hate the idea of bands playing live.
Part of McParadigm died when bad as me came out. Since then he lost the capacity to love.
As long as I have lust, I'll survive.