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Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 4:12 pm
by tommymtcom
MFS is a good tune. Definitely among the better post-RA tunes. It's a shame about that bridge, though.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 4:13 pm
by tommymtcom
Still, Small Town is better.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 4:14 pm
by Kaius
I'm with tom, the bridge is terrible.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 4:58 pm
by B
Where's that confounded bridge?

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 5:04 pm
by Leatherhead
McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:MFS is great.
Heavens, no.
Hells, yeah.
No "great" song ever prominently featured a tired old man trying to nut-flex lyrics this stone cold stupid:
I come from a genius, I am my father's son
Yeah, too bad he was a psychopath and now I'm the next in line
Forget the insemination
And for that, I'm supposed to be glad?
Why such betrayal?
I gotta set sail
Now father you're dead and gone
And I'm finally free to be me
Thanks for all your fucked-up gifts
For which I got no sympathy
These are all okay lyrics.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 5:37 pm
by Jorge
McP is right, some of those lines are really terrible, but I can't bring myself to care when the rest of the song is so bitchin'

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 5:40 pm
by stip
The bridge lyrics are really good. The verse lyrics are a turn off though. They knock MFS down towards the bottom of Lightning Bolt for me.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 5:49 pm
by Thejambi
theplatypus wrote:McP is right, some of those lines are really terrible, but I can't bring myself to care when the rest of the song is so bitchin'
Not sure if this is facetious or not but it's the boat i'm in.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 5:51 pm
by Jorge
Not facetious. I like the song. Including the bridge. I actually like the bridge a lot, and the contrast it provides with the rest of the song.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 5:53 pm
by Thejambi
theplatypus wrote:Not facetious. I like the song. Including the bridge. I actually like the bridge a lot, and the contrast it provides with the rest of the song.
:thumbsup:

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 6:31 pm
by Kaius
The rest of the song is really good, but the bridge is stupid. The lyrics are pedestrian.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 7:17 pm
by stip
your face is a stupid pedestrian bridge

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 8:27 pm
by Birds in Hell
theplatypus wrote:Not facetious. I like the song. Including the bridge. I actually like the bridge a lot, and the contrast it provides with the rest of the song.
Agreed.

I'm still genuinely surprised they managed to write a song that good given all the other dross they've churned out over the last few years.

It's satisfyingly off-kilter with thoughtful twists and turns and also manages to rock out pretty convincingly. Good job, Pearl Jam.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 8:41 pm
by chewm
Not a big fan of MFS
Elderly Woman, easy.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 9:10 pm
by Kaius
stip wrote:your face is a stupid pedestrian bridge
:luv:

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 9:37 pm
by bart
You can really get a good idea of the regression this band has undergone by reading the lyrics to Elderly Woman and then reading those of My Father's Son.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 9:43 pm
by BurtReynolds
bart wrote:You can really get a good idea of the regression this band has undergone by reading the lyrics to Elderly Woman and then reading those of My Father's Son.
I'm not a big fan of Ed when he tries to be witty or intellectual sounding, but sometimes he pulls it off. I like em ok.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 9:46 pm
by stip
bart wrote:You can really get a good idea of the regression this band has undergone by reading the lyrics to Elderly Woman and then reading those of My Father's Son.
Not really. They're very different songs, and there are songs today with great lyrics and songs today with shitty lyrics, just like there were then. And small town is one of the best lyrics they have, period.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 10:20 pm
by Lament
stip wrote:there are songs today with great lyrics
What songs today would you hold up as having great lyrics?

Not just a great line or two, but something that on the whole you could say is great.

Re: Match EG: My Father's Son vs. Elderly Woman...

Posted: Fri March 21, 2014 10:24 pm
by stip
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:there are songs today with great lyrics
What songs today would you hold up as having great lyrics?

Not just a great line or two, but something that on the whole you could say is great.
From the last two albums?

Infallible, Yellow Moon, Sleeping By Myself, Swallowed Whole. Speed of Sound. Force of Nature. Johnny Guitar. Maybe amongst the waves. MYM and Lightning Bolt have some great moments, but are inconsistent. Then again corduroy has some stupid lyrics in it too. These would do well against the strong songs of earlier eras.

I don't know if any of them are as good as elderly woman, but then again there are only a handful of songs that are close to that good.