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Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Tue September 30, 2014 8:21 pm
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:The only way a "Gotham when Batman was a kid" concept done by a TV network could possibly be shocking would be if it wasn't just the worst thing ever.
I guess I should adjust that to major TV network, to make it more exact. But still.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Wed October 01, 2014 8:47 am
by Rangi Guy
I'm enjoying this so far. Still think it's too early to say if it's going to be a train wreck or not
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Wed October 01, 2014 1:32 pm
by Peeps
theplatypus wrote:I agree that the concept could work. I think the execution was just horrifically botched.
i cant think of one show that came out of the gates a 100% winner. it takes time for ongoing series to hit their groove. imo this is hitting it a bit quicker. albeit it can still get better but more through the progression of the story than anyones acting/cinematography etc
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Wed October 01, 2014 1:40 pm
by @SkitchP
The biggest problem, ultimately, is going to be the inherent lack of drama. The main "schtick" of the show is really its biggest flaw.In this universe we know too many of the outcomes- Cobblepot, Nygma, Falcone, Wayne, etc all survive. Gordon doesn't clean up Gotham. So all the main motivations are thrown out the window. The other thing I am really not enjoying is the shoe horning in of not only the bad guys, but Bruce. I don't like that Gordon goes over to be Bruce's dad a for a couple hours a week. I much preferred the notion of Gordon giving him his coat at the murder scene, and not talking to him again until he was like 30.
I think McKenzie/Logue in a noir cop/corruption drama could actually be pretty good.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Wed October 01, 2014 10:02 pm
by i got bugs
Possibilities. .
- Spoiler: show
- the shitty comedian in ep 1 is the joker
The international guy who wanted the kids is Ras
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Wed October 01, 2014 10:14 pm
by i got bugs
I'm lying.. they mentioned dollmaker
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Sat October 04, 2014 10:50 pm
by epilogue
That Pilot was... awkward. I'll keep watching for a while. But I'm worried.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Wed October 08, 2014 7:22 pm
by bodysnatcher
I'm really on the fence about this show, and I think Skitch is spot on in his post above.
It's a show I'll keep watching to see how it develops, but so far I'm just not super thrilled about it, which is disappointing for me. Comes across as some sort of tween Grimm. I just hope they keep focused on a consistent story arc, and don't have individual episodes where there's a random bad guy every episode that they are tracking down (a la Grimm)
- The Selena Kyle character is pretty lame.
- The Cobblepot character was really well cast.
- Not a fan of the Gordon character and the acting behind it.
- I enjoy the spin on Alfred being a hard ass instead of a nice grandfatherly figure he's always been in the movies.
- the Bruce character is a little too hyper-developed
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Thu October 09, 2014 11:41 pm
by epilogue
I liked the second episode WAY more than the pilot. It's still trite and awkward and flailing, but it was a lot more enjoyable. I'll give it a few more episodes.
I really wish Gordon was handled better. Both in the writing and acting.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Thu October 09, 2014 11:50 pm
by stip
Peeps wrote:theplatypus wrote:I agree that the concept could work. I think the execution was just horrifically botched.
i cant think of one show that came out of the gates a 100% winner. it takes time for ongoing series to hit their groove. imo this is hitting it a bit quicker. albeit it can still get better but more through the progression of the story than anyones acting/cinematography etc
Battlestar Galactaca
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Fri October 10, 2014 1:33 pm
by Jorge
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Fri October 10, 2014 1:43 pm
by epilogue
The third episode felt the most like a comic book. Which was fun. Also fun to see that they aren't totally shying away from adult themes. This isn't just a kids show, which is nice.
I feel like they're really rushing Penguin.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Fri October 10, 2014 5:58 pm
by stip
how are they treating teenage bruce wayne (or however old he is)?
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Fri October 10, 2014 6:06 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
stip wrote:how are they treating teenage bruce wayne (or however old he is)?
He's only nine. They are treating him like a kid who just lost his parents, sad and developing a dark side.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Fri October 10, 2014 6:07 pm
by bada
Yeah young Bruce is fine though he seems closer to 12-13. My understanding is they are using him more than the planned because I guess they are happy with the actor. He's used pretty sparingly. Overall I'd give the show a C but Arrow started very slowly but got good into Season 2 so I'll give this show a Season or so.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Fri October 10, 2014 6:40 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
bada wrote:Yeah young Bruce is fine though he seems closer to 12-13. My understanding is they are using him more than the planned because I guess they are happy with the actor. He's used pretty sparingly. Overall I'd give the show a C but Arrow started very slowly but got good into Season 2 so I'll give this show a Season or so.
He is the kid who was on Touch and played a mute.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Sat October 11, 2014 5:36 am
by Iholdthepain
3 episodes in, I'm sticking with it for a while. The casting is great, and my 10 y.o. daughter enjoys it. They ARE rushing Oswald too much, but that's alright with me... He's a fun character, and Bruce is really beginning to develop out nicely. Selina Kyle is a dead ringer for a young Michelle Pfeiffer, too. I just wish I could understand what the fuck Alfred is saying. He's my least favorite character right now.
Team Gotham
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Sat October 11, 2014 11:19 am
by Will
This looked terrible from the beginning. Glad I never bothered.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Tue October 14, 2014 2:47 pm
by Alex
have subsequent episodes of this been as unintentionally hilarious as the pilot? donal logue's character's goofy hard-boiled detective lingo was priceless, and the actor who plays gordon is a non-entity.
Re: TV: Gotham (FOX)
Posted: Wed October 22, 2014 2:39 am
by Stickman
He's growin on me.
