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Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:33 am
by CopperTom
zeb wrote:
CopperTom wrote:The Walkind Dead deserves to be mentioned even if it isn't liked at RM. It's by far the best produced show on TV.
I'm not sure that I agree with that.
They don't use sets, they use towns. Wait until the second half of next season. Alexandria has already made national news.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:36 am
by Jorge
CopperTom wrote: They don't use sets, they use towns.
lol @ this being any measure of quality

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:36 am
by Jorge
I mean, have you SEEN Waterworld?

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:37 am
by CopperTom
Arrow probably deserves a mention. The first half of season 1 was poor, but it keeps on getting better. There will be 4 superhero shows next year, we'll see how many survive.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:37 am
by CopperTom
theplatypus wrote:
CopperTom wrote: They don't use sets, they use towns.
lol @ this being any measure of quality
Enlighten us on production, Mr. Knowitall.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:39 am
by Jorge
CopperTom wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
CopperTom wrote: They don't use sets, they use towns.
lol @ this being any measure of quality
Enlighten us on production, Mr. Knowitall.
I've never even seen Walking Dead, so I'm neither defending nor trashing it. I just think to offer the argument "they don't use sets, they use towns" as evidence of a show being "by far the best-produced show on TV" is kinda dumb.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:45 am
by Jorge
Furthermore, I think using production scope & logistic complexity as an overall measure of a TV show's quality is weird. There are plenty of grand productions with lush & meticulously tuned setpieces that turn out absolute garbage.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:51 am
by Strat
theplatypus wrote:Furthermore, I think using production scope & logistic complexity as an overall measure of a TV show's quality is weird. There are plenty of grand productions with lush & meticulously tuned setpieces that turn out absolute garbage.

Isn't that basically what you just said about the walking dead?

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 1:54 am
by Jorge
Strat wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Furthermore, I think using production scope & logistic complexity as an overall measure of a TV show's quality is weird. There are plenty of grand productions with lush & meticulously tuned setpieces that turn out absolute garbage.

Isn't that basically what you just said about the walking dead?
No, not at all.

I said that in terms of production, bigger doesn't necessarily mean better, and that good production is just one part of what can make a show great anyway.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 2:03 am
by BurtReynolds
It's a terrible show... irregardless...

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 2:28 am
by Kaius
the irregardless/regardless enigma continues to be a nuisance to the English language.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 2:37 am
by bada
They are making an Evil Dead TV series with Bruce Campbell as Ash the golden age continues....lock er up.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 2:39 am
by zeb
I have a (what seems) fairly typical love/hate view on The Walking Dead. I keep watching but it rarely gives me what I want.

To take the position that TWD features better production values than something like Game of Thrones or True Detective seems a bit screwy though, CopperTom.

Plat is right in saying that production is only one aspect of what makes great television, too.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 3:02 am
by E.H. Ruddock
CopperTom wrote:Arrow probably deserves a mention. The first half of season 1 was poor, but it keeps on getting better. There will be 4 superhero shows next year, we'll see how many survive.
Yeah Arrow is good

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 5:01 am
by i got bugs
Love arrow

I have this drunk history show on now and it's great

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 12:01 pm
by lowlight79
Season 2 of Arrow with Deathstroke was quite good for CW standards.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 12:24 pm
by CopperTom
I'm not saying Walking Dead is great because of the production. I'm saying it's great and it has great production. Compare The Walking Dead's production to other post apocolyptic shows such as Revolution or Falling Skies and there is no comparison. Factor in Bear McCreary too. Even the WD RM hate squad has to give the show credit here.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 12:27 pm
by CopperTom
zeb wrote: To take the position that TWD features better production values than something like Game of Thrones or True Detective seems a bit screwy though, CopperTom.
Game of Thrones per episode budget is 6 million. That's not a fair comparison. I haven't seen True Detective. Isn't it a cop show.

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 2:48 pm
by i got bugs
lowlight79 wrote:Season 2 of Arrow with Deathstroke was quite good for CW standards.
The second I heard deathstroke was on is what got me to start watching

Re: Is Televisions Golden Age dying?

Posted: Wed July 30, 2014 2:59 pm
by bada
Arrow is a fun show.