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Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:49 pm
by Iprefertheiroldstuff
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:50 pm
by Alex
soma, you should bring your rage to your thread in GD while it's roiling
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:51 pm
by Iprefertheiroldstuff
Maybe if something interesting pops up.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:51 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
what if it were a cuba gooding jr emotionally torturing a macaulay culkin, for example?
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:52 pm
by Jorge
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
what if it were a cuba gooding jr emotionally torturing a macaulay culkin, for example?
Let's make that movie.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:52 pm
by epilogue
Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
I think Soma's got a point in all this. I mean, a similar thing happened with Gone Girl. It's not unprecedented.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:52 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
1. We shouldn't be making movies based on how the lowest-com-denom is gonna react.
2. There's no reason the teacher has to be white.
3. I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:52 pm
by Farmer John
I loved this movie.
I agree with LV though, that Miles Teller should have played a black jazz drummer.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:53 pm
by Iprefertheiroldstuff
Oh, the teacher has to be white. Unless you want to see J.K Simmons in black face.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:54 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
I think Soma's got a point in all this. I mean, a similar thing happened with Gone Girl. It's not unprecedented.
Not gonna re-open
that argument.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:54 pm
by Iprefertheiroldstuff
What are you knuckle draggers even talking about? Thread integrity, please.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:55 pm
by Alex
Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:Maybe if something interesting pops up.
well, there's a distinct trend in that thread of posters concurrently expressing that we don't understand what you're saying a lot of the time. i think that's pretty interesting. i'm about to suggest that it's a kind of new zealand slang barrier, but i figured i'd let you get the first word.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:56 pm
by Iprefertheiroldstuff
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
Hi my name is Jordan McAssfuck and I know so much about movies that I don't even need to see them in order to engage in a debate about their overall intention and message.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:57 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
theplatypus wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
what if it were a cuba gooding jr emotionally torturing a macaulay culkin, for example?
Let's make that movie.
i am all in...and i've never been more sincere about anything in my life
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:57 pm
by EJ
Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:Alex wrote:making a movie about a black jazz musician, in and of itself, would not be racist. i'm not sure why you think it would be.
Are you serious? That's not my point at all. The protagonist is
psychologically tortured by Simmons' character throughout. If he was black the masses would have missed the point and gotten their LV/Jorge minority defense mechanism on, and the film would have failed at the Box Office.
Please elaborate on what you feel the "point" is that audiences would have missed if the character were black.
The obsession with ambition and legacy, morally ambiguous methods of extracting worth from others, the sense of achieving vicariously and whether the ends justify the means.
You should totally see the film.
Soma has correctly summed it up here.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 6:59 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
Hi my name is Jordan McAssfuck and I know so much about movies that I don't even need to see them in order to engage in a debate about their overall intention and message.
What the fuck do you want, man? I admitted I need to see it before going any further. I was merely explaining my trepidation regarding the film based on what I currently know about it.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 7:01 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.
I think Soma's got a point in all this. I mean, a similar thing happened with Gone Girl. It's not unprecedented.
Not gonna re-open
that argument.
Luv ya, booo.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 7:02 pm
by epilogue
Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
Hi my name is Jordan McAssfuck and I know so much about movies that I don't even need to see them in order to engage in a debate about their overall intention and message.
That's the exact opposite of what Jordan McAssfuck said and you know it.
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 7:04 pm
by Farmer John
Another thing to be outraged about before seeing the movie:
The main character's hero is Buddy Rich - a WHITE jazz drummer!
Re: Movie: Whiplash (Out Now)
Posted: Tue February 10, 2015 7:04 pm
by Iprefertheiroldstuff