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Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 11:36 pm
by epilogue
Next time I have the opportunity, I'm going to watch Quiz Show again. Just for you.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 11:36 pm
by @SkitchP
durdencommatyler wrote:Next time I have the opportunity, I'm going to watch Quiz Show again. Just for you.

Just like you're gonna watch Homicide, right?

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 11:39 pm
by epilogue
@SkitchP wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Next time I have the opportunity, I'm going to watch Quiz Show again. Just for you.

Just like you're gonna watch Homicide, right?
Listen, you need to tell them to put that shit on Netflix Instant.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 11:40 pm
by Birds in Hell
I've never seen Quiz Show, but it seems much closer to something I'd enjoy.

Maybe soon.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 11:41 pm
by epilogue
Birds in Hell wrote:I've never seen Quiz Show, but it seems much closer to something I'd enjoy.

Maybe soon.
It's really, really good.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 11:48 pm
by @SkitchP
durdencommatyler wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Next time I have the opportunity, I'm going to watch Quiz Show again. Just for you.

Just like you're gonna watch Homicide, right?
Listen, you need to tell them to put that shit on Netflix Instant.

I wish!
Season one is available on Youtube though. Or maybe Angela Schroeder will lend you her whole set.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sat January 12, 2013 11:51 pm
by epilogue
@SkitchP wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Next time I have the opportunity, I'm going to watch Quiz Show again. Just for you.

Just like you're gonna watch Homicide, right?
Listen, you need to tell them to put that shit on Netflix Instant.

I wish!
Season one is available on Youtube though. Or maybe Angela Schroeder will lend you her whole set.
:thumbsup:

Maybe I'll watch the pilot on YouTube next week.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 12:16 am
by Jorge
durdencommatyler wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Carrie is pretty great.
No. No, it's not.
Oh, absolutely, it is.
I'm surprised that you're defending a hackneyed piece of shit like "Carrie" after attacking Spielberg for making cheesy movies. Brian De Palma is the king of cheese.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 12:24 am
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Carrie is pretty great.
No. No, it's not.
Oh, absolutely, it is.
I'm surprised that you're defending a hackneyed piece of shit like "Carrie" after attacking Spielberg for making cheesy movies. Brian De Palma is the king of cheese.
Carrie is stylized. It's meant to be campy. That's part of it's charm. De Palma balances (I think pretty brilliantly) the necessary Stephen King camp with a genuine feeling of unease/terror.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 12:40 am
by EJ
Harry Lime wrote:The Green Mile

Thoughts?

Decent. But, I wouldn't rate it anywhere near the enjoyability of Shawshank.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 3:44 am
by VinylGuy
theplatypus wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Carrie is pretty great.
No. No, it's not.
Oh, absolutely, it is.
I'm surprised that you're defending a hackneyed piece of shit like "Carrie" after attacking Spielberg for making cheesy movies. Brian De Palma is the king of cheese.
Carrie is not a piece of shit. You can say you dont like De Palma or the movie itself for whatever reason, but its not a piece of shit.
And i dont think De Palma is the king of cheese either, specially if you compare him with Spielberg.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 4:46 am
by Jorge
You're right. "A piece of shit" is a bit too much, but I still really dislike it. I concede to durdencommatyler that there's an inherent camp to the story and a conscious stylistic decision by De Palma. I understand the homages and the vintage horror pastiche, but it's also surprisingly humorless about it. It aims for a certain kitsch but plays it relatively straight and lands on laughable. As great of a job as Sissy Spacek did, I hate this movie. As for Brian De Palma, I think he's the worst director of his generation, consistently churning out soulless and plastic-y works of cinematic excess and unapologetic grandiosity. I've always been confused by how highly-regarded he seems to be, with his over-the-top contrivances and empty bravado. Though that seems to be largely revisionist history, as he was widely considered one of the worst directors around in the 1980s.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 5:09 am
by Harry Lime
theplatypus wrote:You're right. "A piece of shit" is a bit too much, but I still really dislike it. I concede to durdencommatyler that there's an inherent camp to the story and a conscious stylistic decision by De Palma. I understand the homages and the vintage horror pastiche, but it's also surprisingly humorless about it. It aims for a certain kitsch but plays it relatively straight and lands on laughable. As great of a job as Sissy Spacek did, I hate this movie. As for Brian De Palma, I think he's the worst director of his generation, consistently churning out soulless and plastic-y works of cinematic excess and unapologetic grandiosity. I've always been confused by how highly-regarded he seems to be, with his over-the-top contrivances and empty bravado. Though that seems to be largely revisionist history, as he was widely considered one of the worst directors around in the 1980s.

Yeah yeah yeah, but what do you think about The Green Mile?

And it hurts for me to say that The Untouchables is one of the more overrated movies. It should be remade, but not by Michael Mann.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 5:11 am
by Harry Lime
turned2black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:The Green Mile

Thoughts?
It's "good." David Morse is in it and I like him a lot. Very underrated actor.

I'm a fan of his. Oddly, out of all the star power in The Rock, Morse is the one I remember best.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 5:17 am
by Jorge
Harry Lime wrote:Yeah yeah yeah, but what do you think about The Green Mile?
The last time I saw that I was maybe 12 years old, so I can't really judge since I barely remember anything from it.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 10:18 am
by nyquillyn
theplatypus wrote:You're right. "A piece of shit" is a bit too much, but I still really dislike it. I concede to durdencommatyler that there's an inherent camp to the story and a conscious stylistic decision by De Palma. I understand the homages and the vintage horror pastiche, but it's also surprisingly humorless about it. It aims for a certain kitsch but plays it relatively straight and lands on laughable. As great of a job as Sissy Spacek did, I hate this movie. As for Brian De Palma, I think he's the worst director of his generation, consistently churning out soulless and plastic-y works of cinematic excess and unapologetic grandiosity. I've always been confused by how highly-regarded he seems to be, with his over-the-top contrivances and empty bravado. Though that seems to be largely revisionist history, as he was widely considered one of the worst directors around in the 1980s.
Blow Out is fantastic, although it liberally "borrows" from The Conversation and, apparently, other movies I haven't seen.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 10:44 am
by Birds in Hell
Funnily enough, I ordered Blow Out on Blu Ray a couple of days ago. Looking forward to watching it.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 11:59 am
by Clint72
Harry Lime wrote:No. 1 on IMDB's list.

Discuss.

Personally, I'll agree. I don't think there is better movie that cradles the human condition.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 6:06 pm
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:You're right. "A piece of shit" is a bit too much, but I still really dislike it. I concede to durdencommatyler that there's an inherent camp to the story and a conscious stylistic decision by De Palma. I understand the homages and the vintage horror pastiche, but it's also surprisingly humorless about it. It aims for a certain kitsch but plays it relatively straight and lands on laughable. As great of a job as Sissy Spacek did, I hate this movie. As for Brian De Palma, I think he's the worst director of his generation, consistently churning out soulless and plastic-y works of cinematic excess and unapologetic grandiosity. I've always been confused by how highly-regarded he seems to be, with his over-the-top contrivances and empty bravado. Though that seems to be largely revisionist history, as he was widely considered one of the worst directors around in the 1980s.
I don't disagree with your assessment of De Palma. I haven't seen a great many of his movies, but Carrie and Mission: Impossible are the only ones that I like. Both of them are stylized, genre pieces. Both are based on something else that I already liked before I watched his film versions.

The Untouchables is okay. Well, I haven't seen it in years, so it's hard to say for certain. But I remember thinking it was okay. Boring and a bit overrated.

I own Scarface, but I've never seen it.

Re: The Shawshank Redemption

Posted: Sun January 13, 2013 7:27 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Birds in Hell wrote:I've never seen Quiz Show, but it seems much closer to something I'd enjoy.

Maybe soon.
I havent seen quiz show either so i need to see that, but i dont see how you would dislike shawshank, you gotta watch it, its a great great movie