Red Mosquito

LoathedVermin72 wrote:i don't remember that guy's persona

Really aggressive and "know it all-y" about movies. Super cocky and condescending. Which, I don't think you are at all, to be clear.

But he was super enthusiastic about his contrary opinions, just like you. Only thing is that you guys seem to disagree A LOT about movies are good and bad.

ohh ok. sorry, i hope i don't seem condescending or cocky - that is never my intention and i would genuinely feel like a jerk if i came off that way

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Blended was the only good Sandler rom-com to date. The Wedding Singer and 50 First Dates are two of his most overrated movies.

Never heard of Blended, but I'm with Joey on the other two. Harmless little movies that are very enjoyable.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:ohh ok. sorry, i hope i don't seem condescending or cocky - that is never my intention and i would genuinely feel like a jerk if i came off that way

You really, really don't. I promise. Also, he was kind of an idiot. I disagree with you a lot but you can usually defend yourself without name calling or putting anyone else down or whatever. He had a harder time with that. He was a very poor communicator. And didn't seem to think things through.

Kaius wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Blended was the only good Sandler rom-com to date. The Wedding Singer and 50 First Dates are two of his most overrated movies.

Never heard of Blended, but I'm with Joey on the other two. Harmless little movies that are very enjoyable.

Yeah, I actually mostly agree with that description. They are, indeed, harmless, pleasant movies. I don't hate them or anything, I just don't think they make much of a lasting impression, primarily because - in the case of both movies - Sandler's and Barrymore's characters are painted in very broad strokes. There's no depth to connect with, no memorable humanity. We're just supposed to be happy they're together because aww, they're so cute! I could see why people would like that, but it doesn't do anything for me. I need a little more character meat for a movie romance to work.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Kaius wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Blended was the only good Sandler rom-com to date. The Wedding Singer and 50 First Dates are two of his most overrated movies.

Never heard of Blended, but I'm with Joey on the other two. Harmless little movies that are very enjoyable.

Yeah, I actually mostly agree with that description. They are, indeed, harmless, pleasant movies. I don't hate them or anything, I just don't think they make much of a lasting impression, primarily because - in the case of both movies - Sandler's and Barrymore's characters are painted in very broad strokes. There's no depth to connect with, no memorable humanity. We're just supposed to be happy they're together because aww, they're so cute! I could see why people would like that, but it doesn't do anything for me. I need a little more character meat for a movie romance to work.

Yah, I agree. They're certainly shallow in the character development area, but I think those two make up for it (in both films) by having quite charming chemistry together.

I think, in both, Drew's characters have a lot going on. I'd agree that Sandler's characters in both are cardboard. But their mutual chemistry, as Kaius said, is what makes those movies sail.

durdencommatyler wrote:I think, in both, Drew's characters have a lot going on. I'd agree that Sandler's characters in both are cardboard. But their mutual chemistry, as Kaius said, is what makes those movies sail.

Do they? As far as I can tell, her only defining traits in both are niceness, warmth, earnestness, and decency.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I think, in both, Drew's characters have a lot going on. I'd agree that Sandler's characters in both are cardboard. But their mutual chemistry, as Kaius said, is what makes those movies sail.

Do they? As far as I can tell, her only defining traits in both are niceness, warmth, earnestness, and decency.

Only those five?!

How many makes do you need to make a good character?

But let's also look at her characters obstacles and their journeys, especially in 50FD. There's a lot there to mine.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I think, in both, Drew's characters have a lot going on. I'd agree that Sandler's characters in both are cardboard. But their mutual chemistry, as Kaius said, is what makes those movies sail.

Do they? As far as I can tell, her only defining traits in both are niceness, warmth, earnestness, and decency.

Only those five?!

How many makes do you need to make a good character?

Those are all pretty much the same thing, Joey. And they're all very easy things to make a character.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I think, in both, Drew's characters have a lot going on. I'd agree that Sandler's characters in both are cardboard. But their mutual chemistry, as Kaius said, is what makes those movies sail.

Do they? As far as I can tell, her only defining traits in both are niceness, warmth, earnestness, and decency.

Only those five?!

How many makes do you need to make a good character?

Those are all pretty much the same thing, Joey. And they're all very easy things to make a character.

Okay. Then why list five if you think they're the same thing? Why not just say you think it's a shallow character because all she is is nice?

But beyond that what difference does it make "how easy it is to make a character?" I'm not sure what that means.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I think, in both, Drew's characters have a lot going on. I'd agree that Sandler's characters in both are cardboard. But their mutual chemistry, as Kaius said, is what makes those movies sail.

Do they? As far as I can tell, her only defining traits in both are niceness, warmth, earnestness, and decency.

Only those five?!

How many makes do you need to make a good character?

Those are all pretty much the same thing, Joey. And they're all very easy things to make a character.

Okay. Then why list five if you think they're the same thing? Why not just say you think it's a shallow character because all she is is nice?

But beyond that what difference does it make "how easy it is to make a character?" I'm not sure what that means.

I just don't think they put any work into the characters in those movies. They basically just make them nice and cute and likable and bank on that. That's fine, I guess, but it doesn't make for a very compelling film. In Blended, on the other hand, there's a lot more complexity - hell, just in the opening scene between Barrymore and Sandler we get a lot more depth in the assumptions they make about each other and the resultant annoyance, which is then later revealed to be based on prejudice and poor communication.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I think, in both, Drew's characters have a lot going on. I'd agree that Sandler's characters in both are cardboard. But their mutual chemistry, as Kaius said, is what makes those movies sail.

Do they? As far as I can tell, her only defining traits in both are niceness, warmth, earnestness, and decency.

Only those five?!

How many makes do you need to make a good character?

Those are all pretty much the same thing, Joey. And they're all very easy things to make a character.

Okay. Then why list five if you think they're the same thing? Why not just say you think it's a shallow character because all she is is nice?

But beyond that what difference does it make "how easy it is to make a character?" I'm not sure what that means.

I just don't think they put any work into the characters in those movies. They basically just make them nice and cute and likable and bank on that. That's fine, I guess, but it doesn't make for a very compelling film. In Blended, on the other hand, there's a lot more complexity - hell, just in the opening scene between Barrymore and Sandler we get a lot more depth in the assumptions they make about each other and the resultant annoyance, which is then later revealed to be based on prejudice and poor communication.

As they continue to work together I would hope what you're describing increases. It's certainly there more in 50 than Wedding. So it stands to reason. They should want to continue to challenge each other and dig deeper.

Though, you're literally the only person I know who liked that movie. I haven't seen it. But the trailers made it look just impossible to watch.

I'm so hard thinking about all the character depth thats going to be in this movie!

B wrote:Did you guys know that this was an episode of Futurama?

yeah. Except it was funny when they did it. But this doesn't seem like a movie with the slightest hint of an original idea.

i know right it's gonna be so great

Is Q-bert gonna be in this one?

BurtReynolds wrote:Is Q-bert gonna be in this one?

Yes, apparently