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Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Wed June 07, 2017 11:26 pm
by Birds in Hell
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Wed June 07, 2017 11:30 pm
by LetMeSleep
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Wed June 07, 2017 11:35 pm
by Norah
thatcher was a cunt too
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Wed June 07, 2017 11:38 pm
by Birds in Hell
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Wed June 07, 2017 11:42 pm
by LetMeSleep
Come on, who is worse off with a Tory/May government. The sick, poor, disabled, middle class, basically anyone not in the top 5%, not to mention elephants and foxes. Human rights and basic minimum wage will be renegotiated post Brexit to the detriment of nearly all citizens. This is just the tip.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Wed June 07, 2017 11:47 pm
by Birds in Hell
I think it's hard to start off a discussion on solid footing if you think that conservatives (small or large C) genuinely care less about the poor and middle class than those on the left.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 12:07 am
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Don't fret guys, I'm sure Corbyn's Labour will be (deservedly) smashed.
I don't know where to start, Spenno. How can you possibly agree with May's manifesto and disagree with Corbyn's? I just can't see how anyone could.
You need to look into most of Spenno's trump posts. It will all make sense.
I'm not at all pro-Trump in the same way that I'm pro-May. I would take almost any conservative candidate before Trump, who I think is an unlikeable buffoon entirely out of his element who nonetheless managed to highlight important issues, but I really like May.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 12:07 am
by LetMeSleep
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm at work and only have the time/energy to post images right now, but I think it's hard to start off a discussion on solid footing if you think that conservatives (small or large C) genuinely care less about the poor and middle class than those on the left.
That the Tories genuinely have policies to the detriment of the poor and sick. Yes I do believe that.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 12:08 am
by LetMeSleep
Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Don't fret guys, I'm sure Corbyn's Labour will be (deservedly) smashed.
I don't know where to start, Spenno. How can you possibly agree with May's manifesto and disagree with Corbyn's? I just can't see how anyone could.
You need to look into most of Spenno's trump posts. It will all make sense.
I'm not at all pro-Trump in the same way that I'm pro-May. I would take almost any conservative candidate before Trump, who I think is an unlikeable buffoon entirely out of his element who nonetheless managed to highlight important issues,
but I really like May.

Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 5:16 am
by Birds in Hell
Even if you detest the Tories, I can't see how you can defend Corbyn as being suitable for the office of Prime Minister.
He would (thankfully, only a hypothetical) be an abject disaster for the UK.
Worth reading:
(Obvious retort: you can make a similar case in some respects against Trump and in both cases you'd be absolutely right, they're both men who in a just world would never stand a chance at holding political office; that said, I think Corbyn is clearly worse.)
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 10:20 am
by ABNorman
Took me 10 minutes from lounge to booth back to lounge this morning to vote. Not bad, considering the walk was about 3-4 minutes either way.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 1:13 pm
by jwfocker
Isn't the Spectator a conservative magazine? Obviously it would push against Corbyn.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 1:23 pm
by Anders
How about the Lib Dems? Strange system where a party with 10% only gets 3 MPs.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 2:01 pm
by bune
Strat wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Don't fret guys, I'm sure Corbyn's Labour will be (deservedly) smashed.
I don't know where to start, Spenno. How can you possibly agree with May's manifesto and disagree with Corbyn's? I just can't see how anyone could.
You need to look into most of Spenno's trump posts. It will all make sense.
In a way, yes. But in another way, it's all still very confusing.
I was in London last year for the Brexit vote. It was fun seeing all of the people on the streets asking everyone, "hey, did you vote yet?" I said I was from America and they said that's ok, you were a colony once!

Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 7:26 pm
by Jorge
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 7:35 pm
by malice
Is that a present day ad?
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 7:48 pm
by Anders
It's not a Tory leaflet, and was distributed by racists in a local election in Clapham in 1970:
https://medium.com/@pitt_bob/if-you-des ... 78858dd02f
Feels weird bringing it up in 2016, no matter who you support.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 7:51 pm
by malice
Thanks for responding since jorge didn't bother... I was assuming as much since the UK is much more evolved than the US in "diversity", but figured I'd ask.
Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 7:57 pm
by BurtReynolds
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Re: What's 1 seat between Labour and Tory?
Posted: Thu June 08, 2017 7:59 pm
by Anders
Can't agree. Think it's a real shame they are leaving. Europe working together can only be a good thing.