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Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:39 pm
by bodysnatcher
well yeah, i knew that one.. but i thought i read somewhere over the years that he suffered pretty badly with this album. i know he wasn't comfortable with the recording studio setting in California, but for some reason thought that translated to having some writing issues
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:46 pm
by darth_vedder
bodysnatcher wrote:
well yeah, i knew that one.. but i thought i read somewhere over the years that he suffered pretty badly with this album. i know he wasn't comfortable with the recording studio setting in California, but for some reason thought that translated to having some writing issues
Oh, I don't know. I don't know my Pearl Jams history too well. I smoked and drank most of it away.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:51 pm
by Lament
Hasn't Ed claimed to have really bad writer's block during every album's sessions by now?
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:57 pm
by bodysnatcher
it was a tough stretch to go from "What The Funk?" to "Tremor Christ"
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:48 pm
by aurynsdad
Tj wrote:I also hate the track list. So I listen to it like this
Indifference
Animal
Blood
Rats
Wma
Go
Daughter
Elderly Woman
Dissadence
Rvm
Indifference is the perfect album closer and Go is the perfect starter. You so crazy. Also, Ten and No Code are both quite a bit better than Joshua Tree, so I'm not really worried about that one.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:49 pm
by aurynsdad
stip wrote:i don't understand how drummer debates even happen. He so eclipses all the others for me
He is at the top for me no doubt, but Jack Irons was a force to be reckoned with.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:50 pm
by bodysnatcher
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:39 pm
by Thejambi
Birds in Hell wrote:mac wrote:I'd say it's actually one of, if not their most, consistent albums. I put it on the other day and didn't skip a track. I mean, like, every other record has some shit on it other than this one. Consistently great songs. WMA/Leash are the weakest, but both still listenable good songs. This record is particularly 'the Dave show'. He dominates this record, and as a result it has a feel quite unlike all the other pj albums - it's particularly concerned with groove and rhythm, and they only went as far again in that respect on no code, with tunes such in my tree. Great sounding record as well, sounds awesome cranked up loud and is also great through headphones. This record does not have a major flaw.
Pretty much my feelings too.
I skip around on VS. more than any other Pearl Jam album.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:51 am
by Tj
aurynsdad wrote:Tj wrote:I also hate the track list. So I listen to it like this
Indifference
Animal
Blood
Rats
Wma
Go
Daughter
Elderly Woman
Dissadence
Rvm
Indifference is the perfect album closer and Go is the perfect starter. You so crazy. Also, Ten and No Code are both quite a bit better than Joshua Tree, so I'm not really worried about that one.
Go does open up side two, and Indifference is a great closer for sure, but I like a mellow song to open followed by something jarring. Rvm is like bell ringing in a change for the band so as a closer it would build suspense. Indifference offers closure. Which would be great following Ten.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:59 am
by dimejinky99
One major flaw on this record is that Hard to imagine isnt on it. It sounds more like Ten Pj than vs PJ but still..
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:07 am
by Tj
It's biggest flaw is it sound like a album that would come out after Ten ,and before Vitalogy.
The fact Vs doesn't sound like Backspacer makes it kinda crappy. Creed made this record that is what is wrong with it!
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:08 am
by Jorge
Tj, I hope you don't take offense to this, but I never ever know what the hell you're talking about
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:12 am
by dimejinky99
Tj tryna be a Dj and failing..
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:14 am
by Tj
I am just talkin bout Dirty Frank
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:20 am
by Tj
Tj wrote:It's biggest flaw is it sound like a album that would come out after Ten ,and before Vitalogy.
The fact Vs doesn't sound like Backspacer makes it kinda crappy. Creed made this record that is what is wrong with it!
This is not that hard, but I will be more clear. Vs is predictable. It is not in anyway rad like Backspacer. Overall the band that made this album was replaced by Creed, and this band turned into the greatest band in the world. Only after completely f^%^%n up this record.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:24 am
by dimejinky99
while i do think the early unproduced demos of the songs that make up vs, would be amazing to hear, and a lot more fittingly raw, i dont by any means think the fucked vs up.
Except maybe WMA and leash. and Glorified G.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:27 am
by Tj
dimejinky99 wrote:while i do think the early unproduced demos of the songs that make up vs, would be amazing to hear, and a lot more fittingly raw, i dont by any means think the fucked vs up.
Except maybe WMA and leash. and Glorified G.
Well that is 25 percent of the album spaced out all over the place. That sucks
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:37 am
by bodysnatcher
Tj is a second account, right?
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:41 am
by mastaflatch
WMA is fucking awesome - probably top 3 of this album for me. I wish PJ done more of this kind of song.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:45 pm
by bodysnatcher
the biggest mistake with Vs was the lame-o remastered version with bonus tracks