Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:

Kaius wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Kaius wrote:I can't not associate this musical movement with the also somewhat recent vape-ing fad. How many of you vape? All of you? I'm sure tommy does after he quit cigs and Burt and LV definitely seem like vapers.

I vape CBD (non-THC marijuana) oil; I've posted about this in the Marijuana thread at length. Not daily. Prolly once every ten days or so.

Yeah yeah we all know. You made sure of that.

I don't get the subtext, but I detect negativity. Can you be more clear?

Kaius is a monster

Kevin Davis wrote:I went to a Bonnie 'Prince' Billy/Joanna Newsom concert at a hookah bar

That sounds majestic.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Kaius wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Kaius wrote:I can't not associate this musical movement with the also somewhat recent vape-ing fad. How many of you vape? All of you? I'm sure tommy does after he quit cigs and Burt and LV definitely seem like vapers.

I vape CBD (non-THC marijuana) oil; I've posted about this in the Marijuana thread at length. Not daily. Prolly once every ten days or so.

Yeah yeah we all know. You made sure of that.

I don't get the subtext, but I detect negativity. Can you be more clear?

Kaius is a monster

Ha. I don't think anyone on here is a monster. But I don't speak sarcasm. In real life and RM life, I wear my heart on my sleeve -- I say what I mean, I ask the questions I'm curious about, etc. Sometimes it's difficult for me to connect with folks on here when they get snarky. I embrace criticism, but I would just prefer that you're clear about it.

That's why I enjoy LV and McP so much. They are ornery, but crystal clear.

suck my qoq

Kaius wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Kaius wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Kaius wrote:I can't not associate this musical movement with the also somewhat recent vape-ing fad. How many of you vape? All of you? I'm sure tommy does after he quit cigs and Burt and LV definitely seem like vapers.

I vape CBD (non-THC marijuana) oil; I've posted about this in the Marijuana thread at length. Not daily. Prolly once every ten days or so.

Yeah yeah we all know. You made sure of that.

I don't get the subtext, but I detect negativity. Can you be more clear?

Kaius is a monster

Ha. I don't think anyone on here is a monster. But I don't speak sarcasm. In real life and RM life, I wear my heart on my sleeve -- I say what I mean, I ask the questions I'm curious about, etc. Sometimes it's difficult for me to connect with folks on here when they get snarky. I embrace criticism, but I would just prefer that you're clear about it.

That's why I enjoy LV and McP so much. They are ornery, but crystal clear.

suck my qoq

Welcome to rm, Trag.

Yeah and maybe add some thc to your pot and loosen the f*ck up.

******that was sarcasm******

Kaius wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:I went to a Bonnie 'Prince' Billy/Joanna Newsom concert at a hookah bar

That sounds majestic.

It was. Though I was fairly sure BPB was intoxicated and I consciously took a few steps back from the front in case he threw up.

The first song in this thread reminded me of Hall and Oates -- I liked it, but I am unclear what about it constitutes an entirely new genre.

Some of the stuff in the second video makes me think of the new age music that my childhood best friend's mom was really into around 1990-91 or so.

Kevin Davis wrote:

Kaius wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:I went to a Bonnie 'Prince' Billy/Joanna Newsom concert at a hookah bar

That sounds majestic.

It was. Though I was fairly sure BPB was intoxicated and I consciously took a few steps back from the front in case he threw up.

Burpy 'Prince' Billy.

Kevin Davis wrote:I am unclear what about it constitutes an entirely new genre.

The answer is "absolutely nothing".

lol

zeb wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:I am unclear what about it constitutes an entirely new genre.

The answer is "absolutely nothing".

Of all the different types of music millennials create and consume, Vaporwave may be the most difficult for non-millennials to relate to or understand, because it is so specifically built around nostalgia for people of a certain age and upbringing.

That said, it's not merely trying to stir warm, nostalgic feelings; that would be meaningless. Instead, it is examining nostalgia itself. It's usage of samples - easy listening, soft rock, '80s pop - is integral to what makes it unique, and to what it's exploring. It's all about taking innocuous pop culture detritus from a certain era and transfiguring it into something that is, as Burt described, "emotionally devastating" (if it connects with you). It's almost the very concept of nostalgia made concrete: pieces of the past that have no inherent emotional value, but are distorted into something poignant in one's mind.

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

zeb wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:I am unclear what about it constitutes an entirely new genre.

The answer is "absolutely nothing".

Of all the different types of music millennials create and consume, Vaporwave may be the most difficult for non-millennials to relate to or understand, because it is so specifically built around nostalgia for people of a certain age and upbringing.

That said, it's not merely trying to stir warm, nostalgic feelings; that would be meaningless. Instead, it is examining nostalgia itself. It's usage of samples - easy listening, soft rock, '80s pop - is integral to what makes it unique, and to what it's exploring. It's all about taking innocuous pop culture detritus from a certain era and transfiguring it into something that is, as Burt described, "emotionally devastating" (if it connects with you). It's almost the very concept of nostalgia made concrete: pieces of the past that have no inherent emotional value, but are distorted into something poignant in one's mind.

Didn't DJ Shadow, Cut Chemist, UNKLE, et. al. already do this?

No. Plunderphonics was it's own thing; it's not the end-all-be-all of sample-based music. And it was never about nostalgia. Vaporwave is very different aesthetically and ideologically. It's a much more specific and cohesive movement.