They "feel" more RA than PRAMG, so you best not include them anyway.PHATJ wrote:I got a new computer a while back and it seems I've lost the file for Cold Confession and Let It Ride. Does anyone still have a link?
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It doesn't it. However, it's in that PRAMG era, so it qualifies.B wrote:How does a song that was never released count as a money grab?darth_vedder wrote:10 Billion Years
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Man of the Hour
Cold Confession
10 Billion Years
Let It Ride
Cold Confession
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Let It Ride
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They "feel" plenty close to S/T to me. What do feeling have to do with it anyways? I'm into facts, man. Facts.E.H. Ruddock wrote:They "feel" more RA than PRAMG, so you best not include them anyway.PHATJ wrote:I got a new computer a while back and it seems I've lost the file for Cold Confession and Let It Ride. Does anyone still have a link?
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I guess the logic of PRAMG was thrown out the window a long time ago sodarth_vedder wrote:It doesn't it. However, it's in that PRAMG era, so it qualifies.B wrote:How does a song that was never released count as a money grab?darth_vedder wrote:10 Billion Years
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I was being sarcastic. See: MotHPHATJ wrote:They "feel" plenty close to S/T to me. What do feeling have to do with it anyways? I'm into facts, man. Facts.E.H. Ruddock wrote:They "feel" more RA than PRAMG, so you best not include them anyway.PHATJ wrote:I got a new computer a while back and it seems I've lost the file for Cold Confession and Let It Ride. Does anyone still have a link?
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I agree. I like S/T, but not the two after. However, the board has spoken, it's referred to as PRAMG; but I do like to think of it as PAMG (post avocado money grab).tragabigzanda wrote:I honestly have a tough time lumping S/T into the PRAMG. It strikes me as their attempt at making a classic rock album, which is fine, and makes sense given where they were at the time. It's the last two albums that feel really hollow to me.Kevin Davis wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yeah, but spiritually, it feels way more RA than PRAMG. If I were to include it (which I don't), it would be my #1.
Agreed completely. I'm not including it on my list because it seems so blatantly obvious that it shouldn't be part of that body of work.
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Feelings..., Nothing more than feelings.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I was being sarcastic. See: MotHPHATJ wrote:They "feel" plenty close to S/T to me. What do feeling have to do with it anyways? I'm into facts, man. Facts.E.H. Ruddock wrote:They "feel" more RA than PRAMG, so you best not include them anyway.PHATJ wrote:I got a new computer a while back and it seems I've lost the file for Cold Confession and Let It Ride. Does anyone still have a link?
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darth_vedder wrote:I agree. I like S/T, but not the two after. However, the board has spoken, it's referred to as PRAMG; but I do like to think of it as PAMG (post avocado money grab).tragabigzanda wrote:I honestly have a tough time lumping S/T into the PRAMG. It strikes me as their attempt at making a classic rock album, which is fine, and makes sense given where they were at the time. It's the last two albums that feel really hollow to me.Kevin Davis wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yeah, but spiritually, it feels way more RA than PRAMG. If I were to include it (which I don't), it would be my #1.
Agreed completely. I'm not including it on my list because it seems so blatantly obvious that it shouldn't be part of that body of work.

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While we're at it, I've always hated the "Post Riot Act Money Grab" label.
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pretty muchE.H. Ruddock wrote:I guess the logic of PRAMG was thrown out the window a long time ago sodarth_vedder wrote:It doesn't it. However, it's in that PRAMG era, so it qualifies.B wrote:How does a song that was never released count as a money grab?darth_vedder wrote:10 Billion Years
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I'm going to make this playlist but with Amongst the Waves instead of Lightning Bolt.PHATJ wrote: Proposed album sequence (I haven't actually had a chance to listen through this yet, but I'm going to this afternoon).
01. Pendulum
02. Army Reserve
03. Let it Ride
04. Marker In The Sand
05. Cold Confession
06. Unemployable
07. Lightning Bolt
08. Infallible
09. Yellow Moon
10. Man of the Hour
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are you saying it should be post alien money grab? is that what happened to the band?E.H. Ruddock wrote:darth_vedder wrote:I agree. I like S/T, but not the two after. However, the board has spoken, it's referred to as PRAMG; but I do like to think of it as PAMG (post avocado money grab).tragabigzanda wrote:I honestly have a tough time lumping S/T into the PRAMG. It strikes me as their attempt at making a classic rock album, which is fine, and makes sense given where they were at the time. It's the last two albums that feel really hollow to me.Kevin Davis wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yeah, but spiritually, it feels way more RA than PRAMG. If I were to include it (which I don't), it would be my #1.
Agreed completely. I'm not including it on my list because it seems so blatantly obvious that it shouldn't be part of that body of work.
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Parachutes, and I guess most Stone songs since 2004.
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I never felt like it was a money grab as much as U2-grab. I felt like they wanted to be one of the Big Bands again, but I don't know if it necessarily had much to do with money.durdencommatyler wrote:While we're at it, I've always hated the "Post Riot Act Money Grab" label.
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