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Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:49 am
by EJ
evenslow wrote:Whatever Stone was drinking circa Yield, I'm happy to buy him again.

No Way
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
:wave: Don't forget Bayleaf, Thin Air, and Of The Girl.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:05 am
by Birds in Hell
evenslow wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:giving more control to the guy who wrote ltrp can only have a negative effect
It's really baffling to me that that's a Stone song.
Ha, LTRP is such a Stone song to these ears.

LTRP is a genuine highlight in the lumpy morass of middle-of-the-road forgetability that is Lightning Bolt.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:10 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:12 am
by LoathedVermin72
yeah i've really grown to like ltrp, it's my favorite off the last four albums in fact

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:27 am
by evenslow
Birds in Hell wrote:
evenslow wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:giving more control to the guy who wrote ltrp can only have a negative effect
It's really baffling to me that that's a Stone song.
Ha, LTRP is such a Stone song to these ears.

LTRP is a genuine highlight in the lumpy morass of middle-of-the-road forgetability that is Lightning Bolt.
It has not worn well for me. It just seems like such an obvious bloooz-rock riff, which I don't associate with Stone.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:30 am
by Birds in Hell
I keep waiting for the day that everyone realises that Pendulum is far and away one of the worst songs on Lightning Bolt but it still hasn't happened.

EASY LEFT ME A LONG TIME AGOOOOO

So "dark".

So "moody".

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:30 am
by evenslow
EJ wrote:
evenslow wrote:Whatever Stone was drinking circa Yield, I'm happy to buy him again.

No Way
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
:wave: Don't forget Bayleaf, Thin Air, and Of The Girl.
Yes, re: Bayleaf, Anchors is one of my all-time favorite Stone songs. So fucking good.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:31 am
by LetMeSleep
The 2 worst tracks on LB are pretty solidly at the bottom of the catalogue. Pendulum isn't even close to as bad as those two.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:32 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:33 am
by evenslow
Birds in Hell wrote:I keep waiting for the day that everyone realises that Pendulum is far and away one of the worst songs on Lightning Bolt but it still hasn't happened.

EASY LEFT ME A LONG TIME AGOOOOO

So "dark".

So "moody".
Interesting how that track completely fell out of favor on this tour after being in the opening 3 songs nearly every time last time around.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:33 am
by EJ
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
evenslow wrote:Whatever Stone was drinking circa Yield, I'm happy to buy him again.

No Way
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
:wave: Don't forget Bayleaf, Thin Air, and Of The Girl.
Yes, re: Bayleaf, Anchors is one of my all-time favorite Stone songs. So fucking good.
Indeed. But, I was referring to those 3 Stone songs which were also supposedly recorded during the Yield sessions.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:34 am
by evenslow
tragabigzanda wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
evenslow wrote:Whatever Stone was drinking circa Yield, I'm happy to buy him again.

No Way
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
:wave: Don't forget Bayleaf, Thin Air, and Of The Girl.
Yes, re: Bayleaf, Anchors is one of my all-time favorite Stone songs. So fucking good.
Anchors and Fits are both fantastic.
I'll add Hell Bent to that list as well. Nice lilt action to that.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:36 am
by evenslow
EJ wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
evenslow wrote:Whatever Stone was drinking circa Yield, I'm happy to buy him again.

No Way
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
:wave: Don't forget Bayleaf, Thin Air, and Of The Girl.
Yes, re: Bayleaf, Anchors is one of my all-time favorite Stone songs. So fucking good.
Indeed. But, I was referring to those 3 Stone songs which were also supposedly recorded during the Yield sessions.
I gotcha.

Speaking of the Yield sessions, I like that Stone was still taking the piss whenever possible back then. Love his classic Stone snark attitude in Single Video Theory. I think him growing older and taking the easygoing route with Ed was a detriment to the push and pull of their art as the years went by.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:38 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:40 am
by evenslow
tragabigzanda wrote:
evenslow wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
evenslow wrote:Whatever Stone was drinking circa Yield, I'm happy to buy him again.

No Way
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
:wave: Don't forget Bayleaf, Thin Air, and Of The Girl.
Yes, re: Bayleaf, Anchors is one of my all-time favorite Stone songs. So fucking good.
Anchors and Fits are both fantastic.
I'll add Hell Bent to that list as well. Nice lilt action to that.
It's great, but I kind of dislike Unhand Me, so that's when I usually hit the eject button :-(
Just hit the skip button, friend.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:41 am
by Birds in Hell
evenslow wrote:Speaking of the Yield sessions, I like that Stone was still taking the piss whenever possible back then. Love his classic Stone snark attitude in Single Video Theory. I think him growing older and taking the easygoing route with Ed was a detriment to the push and pull of their art as the years went by.
Yeah, I think the sense that Pearl Jam is primarily Stone's band has been lost over the years.

Listening to boots, he almost never speaks to the crowd these days. Not that he was ever as chatty as Ed but it wasn't unusual in the 90s that he would introduce or comment on songs, make jokes or observations, etc.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:41 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:43 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:46 am
by evenslow
tragabigzanda wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Yeah, I think the sense that Pearl Jam is primarily Stone's band has been lost over the years.

Listening to boots, he almost never speaks to the crowd these days. Not that he was ever as chatty as Ed but it wasn't unusual in the 90s that he would introduce or comment on songs, make jokes or observations, etc.
My sense is that some of that is not related to his relationship to the music or the band. He seemed like a real smart-ass when he was younger, and we know he smoked a lot of pot. Watching PJ20, it seemed like he's grown away from being that person. He seems more humble and earnest now.
I actually think both "versions" of Stone are cool. He's definitely the most immediately likable guy in PJ20. But I also love that he had dickish tendencies in the early days and was more willing to fight for his ideas.

Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:47 am
by Birds in Hell
Does anyone remember that brief clip of Stone that seemed to have been filmed during the recording of S/T where he was clearly, obviously incredibly baked?

I can't remember how/when/why that surfaced but it seems to have disappeared into the aether.