Red Mosquito

theplatypus wrote:

eciglover wrote:

lecherouslittlestump wrote:

But it almost ruins the song considering Ed smoked a million or two cigarettes from the time that song was recorded to the time he re-recorded the line; its pretty noticeable

The fuck? It doesn't sound like that at all.

Does for me.

And you would know, "e-cig lover".

I would, asshole #HatersGonnaHate

I'm a big fan of your avatar picture, eciggy.

Off The Goes sounds tremendous on this. Can really hear each instrument doing their thing.

I also agree about the avalanche line, it sounds like it is from the same session.

Monkey_Driven wrote:I also agree about the avalanche line, it sounds like it is from the same session.

No doubt it is - the backing vocals singing the same line are a dead give away.

GreenMosquito1996 wrote: Long story short : I think the " Avalanche " line was on the original single which came out before the album.

Nope - first appearance of avalanche was on RVM Greatest Hits in 2004. Given Ed has never sung the avalanche lyric live, I would say this was simply an oversight after going back to the original masters like McP and BIH mentioned earlier, rather than intentional post-hoc tinkering. Not sure which is worse though

ridleybradout wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:I also agree about the avalanche line, it sounds like it is from the same session.

No doubt it is - the backing vocals singing the same line are a dead give away.

GreenMosquito1996 wrote: Long story short : I think the " Avalanche " line was on the original single which came out before the album.

Nope - first appearance of avalanche was on RVM Greatest Hits in 2004. Given Ed has never sung the avalanche lyric live, I would say this was simply an oversight after going back to the original masters like McP and BIH mentioned earlier, rather than intentional post-hoc tinkering. Not sure which is worse though

Post-hoc tinkering is far worse IMO.

GreenMosquito1996 wrote: Long story short : I think the " Avalanche " line was on the original single which came out before the album.

Nope - first appearance of avalanche was on RVM Greatest Hits in 2004. Given Ed has never sung the avalanche lyric live, I would say this was simply an oversight after going back to the original masters like McP and BIH mentioned earlier, rather than intentional post-hoc tinkering. Not sure which is worse though [/quote]

Well, that's sad. Do they still care about how they are reissuing stuff ?

GreenMosquito1996 wrote:Well, that's sad. Do they still care about how they are reissuing stuff ?

Have they ever?

People have every right to wish for higher-quality reissues, but I think this has been going on long enough that we can stop making snide comments about the band "caring" or not. Vinyl has always been a fetish object for them, more about the experience than the sound quality. Sometimes we just get lucky (the PJ Vault releases, for example, are aces across the board--packaging, sound quality, etc.).

Simple Torture wrote:People have every right to wish for higher-quality reissues, but I think this has been going on long enough that we can stop making snide comments about the band "caring" or not. Vinyl has always been a fetish object for them, more about the experience than the sound quality. Sometimes we just get lucky (the PJ Vault releases, for example, are aces across the board--packaging, sound quality, etc.).

Why do you care? Are you their personal nut fluffer?

I think I need a personal nut fluffer...

Hey, we prefer the term "scrotum scrunchers"!

And I'm not necessarily defending the band. It's just kind of ridiculous, I think, to expect a couple of fifty-somethings to suddenly start caring about sound quality.

Simple Torture wrote:People have every right to wish for higher-quality reissues, but I think this has been going on long enough that we can stop making snide comments about the band "caring" or not. Vinyl has always been a fetish object for them, more about the experience than the sound quality. Sometimes we just get lucky (the PJ Vault releases, for example, are aces across the board--packaging, sound quality, etc.).

Spot on. They temporarily championed vinyl around the Vitalogy era, and they release Xmas 7" singles, and recently, these Vault shows. I don't know why we hold them up to be these vinyl champs, with the assumption of them being audiophiles that wrongfully is attached to vinyl in general. Just bc they are interested in vinyl doesn't mean they are incredible audio engineers. I don't know why we assume they know jack shit about it. They're just like the majority of vinyl collectors where the record is just a medium they enjoy... whether through nostalgia, artwork, ritual, etc. Just like most vinyl collectors.

The latest reissues are based on two things: Scarcity of the originals, and the recent vinyl popularity boom. It's less to do with re-engineering albums to make them sound even better, and more about capitalizing on two markets: Vinyl reissues and their fanbase.

bodysnatcher wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:People have every right to wish for higher-quality reissues, but I think this has been going on long enough that we can stop making snide comments about the band "caring" or not. Vinyl has always been a fetish object for them, more about the experience than the sound quality. Sometimes we just get lucky (the PJ Vault releases, for example, are aces across the board--packaging, sound quality, etc.).

Spot on. They temporarily championed vinyl around the Vitalogy era, and they release Xmas 7" singles, and recently, these Vault shows. I don't know why we hold them up to be these vinyl champs, with the assumption of them being audiophiles that wrongfully is attached to vinyl in general. Just bc they are interested in vinyl doesn't mean they are incredible audio engineers. I don't know why we assume they know jack shit about it. They're just like the majority of vinyl collectors where the record is just a medium they enjoy... whether through nostalgia, artwork, ritual, etc. Just like most vinyl collectors.

The latest reissues are based on two things: Scarcity of the originals, and the recent vinyl popularity boom. It's less to do with re-engineering albums to make them sound even better, and more about capitalizing on two markets: Vinyl reissues and their fanbase.

FUCK PEARL JAM EDDIE SUCKS AND SHOULD SHUT UP AND NOT SING AND MATT PLAYS TOO FAST

Strat wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:People have every right to wish for higher-quality reissues, but I think this has been going on long enough that we can stop making snide comments about the band "caring" or not. Vinyl has always been a fetish object for them, more about the experience than the sound quality. Sometimes we just get lucky (the PJ Vault releases, for example, are aces across the board--packaging, sound quality, etc.).

Spot on. They temporarily championed vinyl around the Vitalogy era, and they release Xmas 7" singles, and recently, these Vault shows. I don't know why we hold them up to be these vinyl champs, with the assumption of them being audiophiles that wrongfully is attached to vinyl in general. Just bc they are interested in vinyl doesn't mean they are incredible audio engineers. I don't know why we assume they know jack shit about it. They're just like the majority of vinyl collectors where the record is just a medium they enjoy... whether through nostalgia, artwork, ritual, etc. Just like most vinyl collectors.

The latest reissues are based on two things: Scarcity of the originals, and the recent vinyl popularity boom. It's less to do with re-engineering albums to make them sound even better, and more about capitalizing on two markets: Vinyl reissues and their fanbase.

FUCK PEARL JAM EDDIE SUCKS AND SHOULD SHUT UP AND NOT SING AND MATT PLAYS TOO FAST

I heard if you play the new No Code and Yield reissues at 78rpm, it sounds like one of their live shows

On mile 6 of my run today. Big hill in Prospect Park. I was dying. Legs were dead. Heat and humidity were brutal. Felt sick. Then a biker rode by blaring Jeremy. And somehow... it actually helped. It was awesome.

I guess I still love the fuck out of this band.

durdencommatyler wrote:On mile 6 of my run today. Big hill in Prospect Park. I was dying. Legs were dead. Heat and humidity were brutal. Felt sick. Then a biker rode by blaring Jeremy. And somehow... it actually helped. It was awesome.

I guess I still love the fuck out of this band.

was it the "arms raised in a 'V', the dead lay, in pools of maroon below" line that did it for you?

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:On mile 6 of my run today. Big hill in Prospect Park. I was dying. Legs were dead. Heat and humidity were brutal. Felt sick. Then a biker rode by blaring Jeremy. And somehow... it actually helped. It was awesome.

I guess I still love the fuck out of this band.

was it the "arms raised in a 'V', the dead lay, in pools of maroon below" line that did it for you?

Did I ever tell you how much I (inappropriately) freaked out when I first saw Tommy and realized those lyrics were describing the end of the that movie?

I have no complaints with the sound of my copy.

how is the quality of the original vinyl supposed to be? i bought it in london ~20 years ago. i know nothing about vinyl. i liked that the 4 tabs are gigantic so when folded out they make a gigantic eye of ra symbol. i think i listened to it once. it is in a box in my basement.