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Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:40 am
by LoathedVermin72
“Nuthin’ But a “G” Thang” is still amazing BTW, how dare you compare!!!!!

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:43 am
by LoathedVermin72
Also can we take a second to acknowledge how godawful the name “Childish Gambino” is

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:45 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:08 am
by E.H. Ruddock
I just like how he dances in the video

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:10 am
by LoathedVermin72
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I just like how he dances in the video
Yeah he’s got some moves for sure

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:26 am
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Also can we take a second to acknowledge how godawful the name “Childish Gambino” is
Yeah, there's no arguing this.
Agreed

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:12 am
by evenslow
BurtReynolds wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Also can we take a second to acknowledge how godawful the name “Childish Gambino” is
Yeah, there's no arguing this.
Agreed
do u whites not know where that comes from.

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:19 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:24 am
by BurtReynolds
This better be good, even.

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:03 am
by Dev
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The song is just like the video - lots of gimmicky flash with no real meat. It sells the illusion of meaning without actually saying anything.
word

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:09 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:It just seems like a lot of really basic juxtapositions and evocations that are not new or insightful at all. “Impressionistic” is a convenient way of saying “incoherent.” He just runs through the greatest hits of American black imagery in a way that is totally safe and comforting, trying to look superficially confrontational while ultimately pandering to easy liberal ideology. It’s meaningless. It’s tired. It accomplishes nothing except attracting attention from easily impressed liberals who lavish this kind of eye-rollingly overblown praise on some variation of this same thing seemingly every few months. We get a new “genius,” everyone looks woke, nothing moves, repeat.
Totally fair, all true. But just because it'd old hat to us doesn't mean it's not a gateway to someone else. Nuthin' But a G Thang blew my mind when I was 13, you know?
Also, why does this have to change anything? Why can't art just be about expression? Your issue, LV, seems like it's far more able public reaction than the work itself.

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:24 pm
by verb_to_trust
It's true that people who listen to Childish Gambino could fit right in at a Father John Misty show.

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:30 pm
by run2death
Are we gonna have this "blacks don't actually listen to this rap artist" discussion again?

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:32 pm
by VinylGuy
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:It just seems like a lot of really basic juxtapositions and evocations that are not new or insightful at all. “Impressionistic” is a convenient way of saying “incoherent.” He just runs through the greatest hits of American black imagery in a way that is totally safe and comforting, trying to look superficially confrontational while ultimately pandering to easy liberal ideology. It’s meaningless. It’s tired. It accomplishes nothing except attracting attention from easily impressed liberals who lavish this kind of eye-rollingly overblown praise on some variation of this same thing seemingly every few months. We get a new “genius,” everyone looks woke, nothing moves, repeat.
Totally fair, all true. But just because it'd old hat to us doesn't mean it's not a gateway to someone else. Nuthin' But a G Thang blew my mind when I was 13, you know?
Also, why does this have to change anything? Why can't art just be about expression? Your issue, LV, seems like it's far more able public reaction than the work itself.
I agree with LV in terms of how formulaic this is nowadays.

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:10 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:It just seems like a lot of really basic juxtapositions and evocations that are not new or insightful at all. “Impressionistic” is a convenient way of saying “incoherent.” He just runs through the greatest hits of American black imagery in a way that is totally safe and comforting, trying to look superficially confrontational while ultimately pandering to easy liberal ideology. It’s meaningless. It’s tired. It accomplishes nothing except attracting attention from easily impressed liberals who lavish this kind of eye-rollingly overblown praise on some variation of this same thing seemingly every few months. We get a new “genius,” everyone looks woke, nothing moves, repeat.
Totally fair, all true. But just because it'd old hat to us doesn't mean it's not a gateway to someone else. Nuthin' But a G Thang blew my mind when I was 13, you know?
Also, why does this have to change anything? Why can't art just be about expression? Your issue, LV, seems like it's far more able public reaction than the work itself.
Because the song and video are deliberately positioning themselves as a flashy sociopolitical statement. It’s not just artistic expression; Glover knows what he’s doing. He called it “This is America” FFS

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:44 pm
by epilogue
Sure. But why are sociopolitical statements and artistic expression mutually exclusive? He's reacting to and commenting on a climate, a moment in time. It doesn't have to go beyond that.

But art doesn't change anything, anyway. Only, maybe, on an individual level. If this changes or affects individuals, whether or not that leads to larger change or action, why is that a bad thing?

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:51 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Maybe I’m not speaking clearly, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m not saying anything has to “change.” I’m not saying artistic expression and sociopolitical commentary are mutually exclusive. I’m saying this art isn’t accomplishing much - artisitically or politically - but it’s easy to laud it as significant because it looks like it is and flatters sensibilities that makes a lot of people feel good and impressed and progressive. It’s liberal comfort food.

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:53 pm
by epilogue
And you think Donald set out to make liberal comfort food?

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:01 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I don’t think that matters.

Re: Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:04 pm
by epilogue
I would agree. You just seemed aggressive about that earlier and I'm trying to understand, that's all.

You're embroiled in a war with the Great Liberal Machine right now. I wonder if this had dropped at a different time if you'd feel less strongly about it. Maybe not.

Either way, I don't see how anything you've argued lessens the statement or the reactions to it.