theplatypus wrote:They probably couldn't afford him anymore
Christgau is great. He was the first music critic I could name. But I think even he would agree he is the very definition of "old-guard"
I'll look up some of his work. It's entirely possible I've read his stuff before. But I'm terrible about looking up reviews without being pointed toward them. And then I'm terrible at retaining the name of the reviewer. I'm the worst.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 6:44 pm
by bodysnatcher
i'm going to look up all my favorite albums on pitchfork, and create a total average from the ones that have been reviewed. that way i'll know my sweet spot rating for albums i'll probably like
i'm guessing it's around a 6.2
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 6:47 pm
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:Sometimes I feel very sad
God, tell me about it. I should get this tattooed on my fucking chest.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 6:48 pm
by epilogue
bodysnatcher wrote:i'm going to look up all my favorite albums on pitchfork, and create a total average from the ones that have been reviewed. that way i'll know my sweet spot rating for albums i'll probably like
i'm guessing it's around a 6.2
I don't understand. Can you make a YouTube tutorial about exactly what you're doing and how?
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:09 pm
by BurtReynolds
Pitchfork seems to like everything they review. What happened to the 1 star reviews? Those were entertaining at least.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:12 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:Pitchfork seems to like everything they review. What happened to the 1 star reviews? Those were entertaining at least.
Did you not see the chimp peeing in his own mouth?
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Pitchfork seems to like everything they review. What happened to the 1 star reviews? Those were entertaining at least.
Did you not see the chimp peeing in his own mouth?
that was back in the olden days. they never do that now
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:16 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Pitchfork seems to like everything they review. What happened to the 1 star reviews? Those were entertaining at least.
Did you not see the chimp peeing in his own mouth?
that was back in the olden days. they never do that now
Pitchfork has changed a lot over the years -- that flowery and/or insufferably theatrical "personal essay" style of writing has been gone from their standard reviews for a while now, and their reviews now much more closely resemble that of a standard music magazine. They've employed so many writers over 20 years that calling out "Pitchfork" for the way "Pitchfork" writes or reviews records misses the point; they've employed some of the best music writers of the past 10-15 years (Lindsay Zoladz, Nitsuh Abebe), the occasional upstart dolt who's still trying to figure out how cleverness fits into criticism without overwhelming it, and a bunch of writers whose work you've forgotten as soon as you've finished reading it. About the same ratio as most publications, really.
Pitchfork's worst offense is probably that it created a moment in time where a really crummy, self-serving form of music writing was being produced by the hippest publication on the internet, and overall I think that's had a negative influence on music writing as a whole, resulting in a lot of clowns with nothing of any value whatsoever to say about music thinking their penchant for being funny qualified them to be music critics, and this being seen organizationally as a model that works. It's cooled over time, but I think the shockwaves of it have been felt permanently.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:25 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:26 pm
by Kevin Davis
They launched in 1996.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:27 pm
by bodysnatcher
yeah i remember reading it in '98 in my dorm
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:30 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:32 pm
by bodysnatcher
it's the gawker of music writing
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:34 pm
by BurtReynolds
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Pitchfork seems to like everything they review. What happened to the 1 star reviews? Those were entertaining at least.
Did you not see the chimp peeing in his own mouth?
that was back in the olden days. they never do that now
How old is Pitchfork?
old as fuck.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:36 pm
by bodysnatcher
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:38 pm
by Kevin Davis
It's also worth noting that Pitchfork is probably the last major music publication to come into existence during the pre-Napster era, where folks' primary means of music acquisition was still going to music stores and rummaging through bins, and also the first major publication whose principal mission was to direct people to off-the-beaten-path records. To that end, I think the flippant writing style (and extreme numerical scores) of their early years kind of reflected their cultural role as a consumer guide, in an era where more was at stake in checking out a new record than simply the ten minutes you might spend watching a couple YouTube videos.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:46 pm
by Strat
I never cared for pitchfork. Ever.
Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Wed February 15, 2017 7:46 pm
by Norah
I just think it's weird to have a problem with artful, flowery language being used to describe art.
