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Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Fri July 18, 2025 10:47 pm
by Ms Harmless
LoathedVermin72 wrote:wtf, Bill Ward is one of the greats!
drumming in general was less developed as an artform, it's not just about him; John Bonham was much tighter, but that's alright, I don't think it's drums Sabbath are known for pushing forward
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Sat July 19, 2025 12:26 am
by LoathedVermin72
Ms Harmless wrote:drumming in general was less developed as an artform
I think Max Roach might have something to say about this
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Sat July 19, 2025 8:59 am
by Ms Harmless
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:drumming in general was less developed as an artform
I think Max Roach might have something to say about this
which is not to say that there weren't drummers who had it more developed than others
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Sat July 19, 2025 9:02 am
by Ms Harmless
the context of my statement was rock / metal drumming ("in general")
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Sun July 20, 2025 10:46 pm
by emanon
Ms Harmless wrote:listening to the debut right now
it's great, even if I have to accept that the drumming is sloppy in places
Damn - and he was on my shortlist for Cameron replacements, too.

Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 6:02 pm
by joostone
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 6:05 pm
by LoathedVermin72
What a gift that they got the final show in when they did. RIP to a legend.
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 6:06 pm
by Ms Harmless
glad he got to do his show, RIP Birmingham's finest
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 6:13 pm
by VinylGuy
Very sad. So happy he got to do that show.
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 8:27 pm
by wease
Apparently Matt, Kim and Ben were advertised as playing but schedules wouldn’t allow them to make the trip.
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 8:31 pm
by Simple Torture
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 10:36 pm
by LetMeSleep
Damn. Glad he got a final show and got to see so many friends.
I met him backstage in the late 90s. Had a photo (lost along with other things). He was shattered after the gig and barely present. But oh my what a show.
RIP and Up The Villa
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 11:27 pm
by VinylGuy
Ill listen to Reunion, the 1997 live album.
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Tue July 22, 2025 11:47 pm
by bart
Saw him with sabbath at ozzfest 99, glad I got to at least once.
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Wed July 23, 2025 1:37 am
by i got bugs
Was thinking.. my top 15 bs or oo
1 NIB
2 planet caravan
3 after forever
4 sweet leaf
5 war pigs
6 crazy train
7 children of the grave
8 fairies wear boots
9 solitude
10 black sabbath
11 snowblind
12 paranoid
13 the wizard
14 goodbye to romance
15 supernaut
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Thu July 24, 2025 12:02 pm
by Ms Harmless
so continuing my Black Sabbath deep dive, I'm not in love with "Iron Man" as a track but other than that I did find Paranoid to be a remarkably consistent and experimental listen, and the drums are really levelled up, what a fab album! looking forward to trying album 3 tonight
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Thu July 24, 2025 12:31 pm
by Ms Harmless
is "Sweet Leaf" the original Stoner Doom song?
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Thu July 24, 2025 5:54 pm
by Ello Sailor
Ms Harmless wrote:is "Sweet Leaf" the original Stoner Doom song?
I think so.
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Thu July 24, 2025 10:38 pm
by VinylGuy
Ms Harmless wrote:is "Sweet Leaf" the original Stoner Doom song?
its such a good song. Yeah, it has the elements there for sure.
Re: INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.
Posted: Mon July 28, 2025 7:40 pm
by VinylGuy
VinylGuy wrote:Ill listen to Reunion, the 1997 live album.
this is really cool. Dirty Woman sounds awesome. Iommi channels some Kim Thayil right there