Re: Given to Fly vs. Red Dot vs. No Way
Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 2:48 pm
Okay, let's lock 'er up. No Way wins! 
It's right around the 3:14 mark of the song. Right towards the end of the echoing guitar breakdown at the end of the bridge. There's a moment where someone yells something in the background, and I always thought it was something along the lines of, "Let's go Jack!" Because right after, Jack brings the song out of the bridge and right back into the chorus.durdencommatyler wrote:I don't know what either of them is talking about. But I didn't hear the HWIC sample in PMPM until after about 2 years of listening to it. *shurgs*evenslow wrote:It's all too much!durdencommatyler wrote:Trag says the person is saying "Turn it down!" Keep up, 'slow!evenslow wrote:Is this for real?bodysnatcher wrote:There's a moment in the midst of the breakdown of the bridge... after the "let's call in an angel" part where you can hear someone (Jeff? stone?) yell something like, "Come on Jack!" Or "Let's go Jack!"evenslow wrote:? ? ?bodysnatcher wrote:I felt bad for Jack's Red Dot but then I remembered the call out that Jack gets during the No Way bridge so I feel better
Also, I'm not sure I know what anyone is ever saying on a Pearl Jam record.
I get this. But I just listened to Given To Fly for the first time in a while after trying to find the above moment in No Way. And goddamit I got all sorts of teary eyed while listening to it. It really hit hard with me right now -- I've been fighting depression with work, and I didn't realize until about a month ago. And shit that song just hit me in the feels.guestT wrote:used to love given to fly but now i find it extremely corny
no way it is
I'm not trying to be "too cool for school" or anything like that. I promise. This isn't me being a hipster. I've never loved Given to Fly the way others have. Not even back in the day. The first time I heard it I thought it was cool, certainly not a bad song, not even CLOSE to a bad song. It's a really good song. But it's never been as powerful to me as it has to others.Strat wrote:Given to Fly. C'mon. No Way is a fantastic tune and maybe a little "cooler" but Given to Fly is top notch PJ. Especially that studio cut. beautifully produced and an incredible performance . What a song.
being that we are emotional bro's, im surprised by this.durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not trying to be "too cool for school" or anything like that. I promise. This isn't me being a hipster. I've never loved Given to Fly the way others have. Not even back in the day. The first time I heard it I thought it was cool, certainly not a bad song, not even CLOSE to a bad song. It's a really good song. But it's never been as powerful to me as it has to others.Strat wrote:Given to Fly. C'mon. No Way is a fantastic tune and maybe a little "cooler" but Given to Fly is top notch PJ. Especially that studio cut. beautifully produced and an incredible performance . What a song.
No Way is absolutely a better song in my opinion. No Way hits me in the gut in a way Given to Fly never has.
Agreed. Even when the single dropped off, my general reaction was "Jack Irons is amazing! The rest of this song feels pretty obvious for Pearl Jam." I can admire it for the powerful composition that it is, but Pearl Jam had previously taken me to those soaring heights with songs like Alive, Dissident, etc. Jack's "world beat" approach to the song isn't enough to set it apart from the others, whereas No Way is just gnarly and weird and sort of brilliant.durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not trying to be "too cool for school" or anything like that. I promise. This isn't me being a hipster. I've never loved Given to Fly the way others have. Not even back in the day. The first time I heard it I thought it was cool, certainly not a bad song, not even CLOSE to a bad song. It's a really good song. But it's never been as powerful to me as it has to others.Strat wrote:Given to Fly. C'mon. No Way is a fantastic tune and maybe a little "cooler" but Given to Fly is top notch PJ. Especially that studio cut. beautifully produced and an incredible performance . What a song.
No Way is absolutely a better song in my opinion. No Way hits me in the gut in a way Given to Fly never has.
Ok, I finally heard it but had to put on headphones and jack it way way up. You guys must have the ears of a fucking cocker spaniel.bodysnatcher wrote:It's right around the 3:14 mark of the song. Right towards the end of the echoing guitar breakdown at the end of the bridge. There's a moment where someone yells something in the background, and I always thought it was something along the lines of, "Let's go Jack!" Because right after, Jack brings the song out of the bridge and right back into the chorus.durdencommatyler wrote:I don't know what either of them is talking about. But I didn't hear the HWIC sample in PMPM until after about 2 years of listening to it. *shurgs*evenslow wrote:It's all too much!durdencommatyler wrote:Trag says the person is saying "Turn it down!" Keep up, 'slow!evenslow wrote:Is this for real?bodysnatcher wrote:There's a moment in the midst of the breakdown of the bridge... after the "let's call in an angel" part where you can hear someone (Jeff? stone?) yell something like, "Come on Jack!" Or "Let's go Jack!"evenslow wrote:? ? ?bodysnatcher wrote:I felt bad for Jack's Red Dot but then I remembered the call out that Jack gets during the No Way bridge so I feel better
Also, I'm not sure I know what anyone is ever saying on a Pearl Jam record.
I could always hear it fairly clearly in my car, but I just listened on Spotify and it's a little tougher to hear. Try a set of headphones.
bodysnatcher wrote:Ed: "E-BOW, STONE!"