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Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 3:38 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Go motherfuckers

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 3:41 am
by Bammer
This is like asking me to choose my favorite twin son.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 3:41 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Bammer wrote:This is like asking me to choose my favorite twin son.
Oh, you have one

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 4:58 am
by Strat
Go. Duh.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 1:03 pm
by Higgs
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Go 2017
This song is a beast.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 1:18 pm
by numbers
Fuck Go

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 1:46 pm
by Kevin Davis
I'm obviously in the minority who thinks "Animal" is kind of a nothing song -- a nice riff-groove and some better-than-average Angry Eddie screaming, perfect when I'm in the mood for that sort of thing, which gets rarer with each passing year. But musically this song is as empty underneath all its surface grit as "Pendulum" is under all its sound effects. Vote for "Go" in a landslide.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 1:54 pm
by evenslow
Kevin Davis wrote:I'm obviously in the minority who thinks "Animal" is kind of a nothing song -- a nice riff-groove and some better-than-average Angry Eddie screaming, perfect when I'm in the mood for that sort of thing, which gets rarer with each passing year. But musically this song is as empty underneath all its surface grit as "Pendulum" is under all its sound effects. Vote for "Go" in a landslide.
I'd be hard-pressed to find something I disagreed with more than this sentiment about Animal. It's like saying AC/DC blows b/c it's all "surface grit." Animal is like a sped-up version of that muscular rock, with a Stone-provided funky spin. And like AC/DC, it's all about the intensity and musicianship in the (deceptively simple) playing. Oh, and just one of the great rock vocalists delivering in spades with trademark 1993 charisma and full-throated power.

COME ON MAN!!!!

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 1:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
Kevin Davis wrote:I'm obviously in the minority who thinks "Animal" is kind of a nothing song -- a nice riff-groove and some better-than-average Angry Eddie screaming, perfect when I'm in the mood for that sort of thing, which gets rarer with each passing year. But musically this song is as empty underneath all its surface grit as "Pendulum" is under all its sound effects. Vote for "Go" in a landslide.
This is the worst post you've ever made, KD. I'll be questioning your musical opinions from here on out.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 1:56 pm
by epilogue
Go will win. And I can't be mad about that. It's a fantastic song. But Animal is so special to me. Vote for Animal. God, I fucking love both of these songs. This is gonna be bittersweet.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 2:07 pm
by stip
i love thise points in animal that almost sound like a piano

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 2:07 pm
by Kaius
tragabigzanda wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:I'm obviously in the minority who thinks "Animal" is kind of a nothing song -- a nice riff-groove and some better-than-average Angry Eddie screaming, perfect when I'm in the mood for that sort of thing, which gets rarer with each passing year. But musically this song is as empty underneath all its surface grit as "Pendulum" is under all its sound effects. Vote for "Go" in a landslide.
This is the worst post you've ever made, KD. I'll be questioning your musical opinions from here on out.
I wouldn't have imagined a single post could make me even more sure of my opinion on Animal, but here it is.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 2:08 pm
by evenslow
stip wrote:i love thise points in animal that almost sound like a piano
What points would thise be?

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 2:11 pm
by Kevin Davis
tragabigzanda wrote:This is the worst post you've ever made, KD.
Oh, I can't imagine this is true -- surely I've gotten overly precious about some stupid pedantic bullshit, or made some ill-fated attempts at humor, that led to posts far worse than my unpopular but honest and ultimately correct post in this thread. No doubt "Animal" is a powerful performance, and the band is locked into a solid groove, but as someone who generally prizes things like melody, harmony, texture, etc. over these kinds of raw energy songs, "Animal" doesn't really have a lot going on. Happy to entertain discussion to the contrary.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 2:13 pm
by stip
evenslow wrote:
stip wrote:i love thise points in animal that almost sound like a piano
What points would thise be?
hold on. i need this insane tom waits cover of silent night to finish

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 2:14 pm
by epilogue
Kevin Davis wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:This is the worst post you've ever made, KD.
Oh, I can't imagine this is true -- surely I've gotten overly precious about some stupid pedantic bullshit, or made some ill-fated attempts at humor, that led to posts far worse than my unpopular but honest and ultimately correct post in this thread. No doubt "Animal" is a powerful performance, and the band is locked into a solid groove, but as someone who generally prizes things like melody, harmony, texture, etc. over these kinds of raw energy songs, "Animal" doesn't really have a lot going on. Happy to entertain discussion to the contrary.
For me, part of the reason Animal is so fucking powerful is that it is completely raw (as you say) but also melodic. It's one of the few ED YELLY RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA songs that is catchy as fuck and gets stuck in my head. Plus I just adore the lyrics. It's crazy how powerful yet melodic Animal is.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 2:16 pm
by stip
stip wrote:
evenslow wrote:
stip wrote:i love thise points in animal that almost sound like a piano
What points would thise be?
hold on. i need this insane tom waits cover of silent night to finish
listen from about 30 seconds to 50 seconds underneath the main riff - occassional accents

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 4:26 pm
by dimejinky99
Impossible choice. They compliment each other so well too.

Ughhhh


Go I guess. Only because it's still a monster live. Animal has become rather tired and lifeless in the live setting.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 5:19 pm
by PHATJ
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:This is the worst post you've ever made, KD.
Oh, I can't imagine this is true -- surely I've gotten overly precious about some stupid pedantic bullshit, or made some ill-fated attempts at humor, that led to posts far worse than my unpopular but honest and ultimately correct post in this thread. No doubt "Animal" is a powerful performance, and the band is locked into a solid groove, but as someone who generally prizes things like melody, harmony, texture, etc. over these kinds of raw energy songs, "Animal" doesn't really have a lot going on. Happy to entertain discussion to the contrary.
For me, part of the reason Animal is so fucking powerful is that it is completely raw (as you say) but also melodic. It's one of the few ED YELLY RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA songs that is catchy as fuck and gets stuck in my head. Plus I just adore the lyrics. It's crazy how powerful yet melodic Animal is.
I'm with you Joey.

Re: Vs. Champion: Animal vs. Go

Posted: Sat March 25, 2017 5:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
Kevin Davis wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:This is the worst post you've ever made, KD.
Oh, I can't imagine this is true -- surely I've gotten overly precious about some stupid pedantic bullshit, or made some ill-fated attempts at humor, that led to posts far worse than my unpopular but honest and ultimately correct post in this thread. No doubt "Animal" is a powerful performance, and the band is locked into a solid groove, but as someone who generally prizes things like melody, harmony, texture, etc. over these kinds of raw energy songs, "Animal" doesn't really have a lot going on. Happy to entertain discussion to the contrary.
The bold part is very un-KD of you. This tourney is tearing us apart...

Re: melody, harmony, and texture: The song has a terrific melody. It's simple, and it repeats itself as the bass line and chords change against it, creating wonderful tension. There's no harmony to be found, but then neither is there in Go. And texture? Jesus christ, this song has it in spades. The dirty guitar riff, the funky octave diads going on during the chorus, and Ed's vocals that sound simultaneously like a caged animal and a disembodied ghost.