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Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 6:20 am
by TremorJam
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
TremorJam wrote:I don't know what it is about last year's bootlegs, but they were pretty hit or miss for me. I have a hard time even wanting to listen to them. There's a few that are pretty damn good, though. Pemberton and Telluride are excellent. One I was enamored with on first listen, Quebec City, I tried to listen to it again and cringed when I heard how horrible Once sounded and can't quite get past it. Some shows were fast and others plodded along. Forgotten lyrics and poor enunciation drives me crazy. Ed really should think about using a teleprompter..
As far back as 2003, Ed was regularly fucking up songs like Hail Hail and State Of Love And Trust every night and nobody ever told him to shape up. But then in 2005 he was singing them right again, so he must have re-learned them again in rehearsals. He just forgets shit.
It's all the weed he's smoking and the wine.. lol... When they're on, they're still really good.. This Tulsa show from 2014 is excellent.

Really, Force Of Nature I guess never clicked for them live. I like the live versions for most of Backspacer better than the record. Except Force Of Nature. It needed to be slowed down a little live. Same with LB , the production of those records drives me batshit. They sound too glossy. I didn't like the re-worked Future Days at all. That song is really hit or miss live.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 7:31 am
by coptheriotact
Help help is great live, try Adelaide 03. It was get right that was terrible

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 9:08 am
by lecherouslittlestump
cutuphalfdead wrote:corduroy
given to fly
One of the few modern (although it's over 10 years old at this point) versions of Corduroy is this version from Reading 06. Something about the crowd's reaction when the riff kicks in, the fact that it was their first festival since 00 (I think), the opening line "the waiting drove me mad" etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeMjkCs ... freload=10

Watching this, it's sad to see how far EV's voice has deteriorated these last 10 years.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 12:38 pm
by ridleybradout
I'd like to hear a version of Swallowed Whole with the correct lyrics once before I die.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 12:40 pm
by ridleybradout
As far as trainwrecks go - Life Wasted has been nearly every attempt since 2006 - yet they still persist! Even f*cked it up for the TMR record :shake:

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 12:42 pm
by evenslow
ridleybradout wrote:I'd like to hear a version of Swallowed Whole with the correct lyrics once before I die.
You have higher odds of being struck by lightning
Spoiler: show
twice
Spoiler: show
in the same day

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 12:44 pm
by evenslow
lecherouslittlestump wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:corduroy
given to fly
One of the few modern (although it's over 10 years old at this point) versions of Corduroy is this version from Reading 06. Something about the crowd's reaction when the riff kicks in, the fact that it was their first festival since 00 (I think), the opening line "the waiting drove me mad" etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeMjkCs ... freload=10

Watching this, it's sad to see how far EV's voice has deteriorated these last 10 years.
Ed was still a God in 2006.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 1:11 pm
by darth_vedder
I don't mind Corduroy live, sans the call and response. That is effing terrible.

re: Matt... evenslow / trag... did you see my post on pg. 1? Curious to see if y'all hate all Jack songs with Matt or just like recently?

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 1:30 pm
by TremorJam
ridleybradout wrote:As far as trainwrecks go - Life Wasted has been nearly every attempt since 2006 - yet they still persist! Even f*cked it up for the TMR record :shake:
The Milan, Buenos Aires and a few other versions drives me nuts. That song didn't really grab me until I saw it in Charlottesville, now it's one of my favorites.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 1:48 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 2:14 pm
by Kevin Davis
I think "trainwreck" is a huge overstatement for most of these. The only PJ original with an overwhelmingly unfavorable trainwreck-to-total-performances ratio is "Hitchhiker." Most of these are just songs that just never quite caught fire live, or songs that have lost nuance over the years, or songs that were better with other personnel. Not really what I think of when I think "trainwreck."

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 2:30 pm
by evenslow
tragabigzanda wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:I don't mind Corduroy live, sans the call and response. That is effing terrible.

re: Matt... evenslow / trag... did you see my post on pg. 1? Curious to see if y'all hate all Jack songs with Matt or just like recently?
The "tribal" songs (IMT, WYA, GTF) have sucked since the moment Matt joined. Most of the other ones -- the straightforward rockers -- were awesome for Matt's first several years.
Yeah this.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 2:31 pm
by evenslow
Kevin Davis wrote:I think "trainwreck" is a huge overstatement for most of these. The only PJ original with an overwhelmingly unfavorable trainwreck-to-total-performances ratio is "Hitchhiker." Most of these are just songs that just never quite caught fire live, or songs that have lost nuance over the years, or songs that were better with other personnel. Not really what I think of when I think "trainwreck."
They are too good of musicians for an actual trainwreck.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 2:35 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Kevin Davis wrote:I think "trainwreck" is a huge overstatement
dime created the thread

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 2:35 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Kevin Davis wrote:I think "trainwreck" is a huge overstatement for most of these. The only PJ original with an overwhelmingly unfavorable trainwreck-to-total-performances ratio is "Hitchhiker." Most of these are just songs that just never quite caught fire live, or songs that have lost nuance over the years, or songs that were better with other personnel. Not really what I think of when I think "trainwreck."
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 3:00 pm
by TremorJam
The Oakland 2013 show was really the worst show over the last few years.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 4:08 pm
by gardenparty
No Way isn't meant to be performed live.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 6:47 pm
by Norah
No Way is a good one.

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 7:29 pm
by TremorJam
No Way sounded alright in Milwaukee when they performed Yield. The last time they played it was at LA2 in 2013 The other worst show of the last few years... :?

Re: Pearl jam songs that are awesome but are trainwrecks liv

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 10:16 pm
by gardenparty
TremorJam wrote:No Way sounded alright in Milwaukee when they performed Yield. The last time they played it was at LA2 in 2013 The other worst show of the last few years... :?
I'll have to check that Milwaukee version out.
I was at the LA2 show you are referring to so yea