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Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Mon October 28, 2019 6:11 pm
by surfndestroy
Green Habit wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:That Katie Hill really knows how to party.
So it sounds like the lesson here is that you can revenge porn a sitting member of Congress into resigning. That's a really, really bad lesson, especially when combined with the typical double standards applied to women and non-traditional sexuality.
Having sex with people who report to her should be something she resigns over. Due to the power imbalance, her partners could not give informed consent.
The revenge porn aspect of the story is separate, despicable and should be addressed via legal means.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Mon October 28, 2019 8:07 pm
by Green Habit
surfndestroy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:That Katie Hill really knows how to party.
So it sounds like the lesson here is that you can revenge porn a sitting member of Congress into resigning. That's a really, really bad lesson, especially when combined with the typical double standards applied to women and non-traditional sexuality.
Having sex with people who report to her should be something she resigns over. Due to the power imbalance, her partners could not give informed consent.
The revenge porn aspect of the story is separate, despicable and should be addressed via legal means.
Unethical, sure, no disagreement there. But I'm leery of imposing a strict norm of resignation over this for elected office, considering that voters have the opportunity to have their say in both primary and general elections, and where there may counter-aggravating factors at play.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Mon October 28, 2019 8:22 pm
by bune

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Mon October 28, 2019 9:48 pm
by verb_to_trust
Katie Hill is a lunatic, early. Nobody should feel sorry for her.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Mon October 28, 2019 11:06 pm
by McParadigm
Of course

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Mon October 28, 2019 11:18 pm
by Bi_3
verb_to_trust wrote:Katie Hill is a lunatic, early. Nobody should feel sorry for her.

She’s awful, but basic human dignity rules still apply

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 12:54 am
by bune
awful?

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 1:30 am
by digster
This is the problem with such cartoonish corruption at the top; other than the gross revenge porn part of this, this just seems boring and quaint in comparison.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 1:32 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 1:34 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 2:11 am
by BurtReynolds
Image

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 3:45 am
by verb_to_trust
bune wrote:awful?
Yes, awful.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 2:44 pm
by B
bune wrote:
:thumbsup:

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 3:22 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:
bune wrote:
:thumbsup:

The idea that someone can simultaneously be victim and offender is gonna be difficult for progressives to grasp here.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 3:25 pm
by bune
OK Boomer.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 3:35 pm
by McParadigm
Is anybody arguing that she wasn’t engaged in unethical behavior? Or come out in opposition to her resignation?

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 3:44 pm
by surfndestroy
McParadigm wrote:Is anybody arguing that she wasn’t engaged in unethical behavior? Or come out in opposition to her resignation?
Green Habit wrote:Unethical, sure, no disagreement there. But I'm leery of imposing a strict norm of resignation over this for elected office, considering that voters have the opportunity to have their say in both primary and general elections, and where there may counter-aggravating factors at play.

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 3:55 pm
by McParadigm
So renowned leftist Green Habit, then? That’s the one?

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 3:58 pm
by bune
Now that we have him: I got the tar. Anyone bring the feathers?

Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..

Posted: Tue October 29, 2019 4:17 pm
by verb_to_trust
I was really disappointed in how the guys on Pod Save America glossed over how incredibly inappropriate her sleezy behavior with staff is