Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 5:48 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Anders wrote:Even the videos you post as proof are off, because they show all three guitars playing at the same time. Sure there will be great performances and some off from everyone in the band (esp. Ed on guitar), after hundreds of shows, but if you want to see the difference then Ed solo should be better as proof.
You do seem as if you have come to a final conclusion already. But I think you should reconsider.
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Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 5:50 pm
by digster
mikejasond wrote:He CAN play Do the Evolution and Brain of J well. Its whenever it gets slightly campfirey that he is horrendous. But honestly hearing Eddie on Sometimes and Corduroy I wonder if Eddie could do a better job on their other songs too if he tried.
Oh man, seeing Eddie play Do The Evolution would be amazing (and again, I like his guitar playing).
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 5:51 pm
by Anders
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Anders wrote:Even the videos you post as proof are off, because they show all three guitars playing at the same time. Sure there will be great performances and some off from everyone in the band (esp. Ed on guitar), after hundreds of shows, but if you want to see the difference then Ed solo should be better as proof.
You do seem as if you have come to a final conclusion already. But I think you should reconsider.
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG
Can't argue with that.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 5:52 pm
by run2death
mikejasond wrote:
run2death wrote:Stone has a groove and natural way of playing that Ed can't even begin to touch.
Guitar work is more than just playing every note at the exact right spot every time you play it.
I feel the opposite, Eddie is a little sloppy occasionally but the FEEL is good, Stone plays the right notes in a heavy clunky fashion which ruins the feel of the song even if the notes are right.
Id take Eddie's occasional note sloppiness over Stone's rhythmic sloppiness
You must be listening to different shows than me.
Ed screws up because he struggles to keep up sometimes.
Stone's just trying to inject a groove into a song.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 5:56 pm
by mikejasond
Its possible Eddie wasn't always this good but his playing on that Moline show was just so good on Around the bend, off he goes, and sometimes and Ive also noticed his corduroy has been flawless and much faster than it used to be.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 6:01 pm
by Strat
mikejasond wrote:He CAN play Do the Evolution and Brain of J well. Its whenever it gets slightly campfirey that he is horrendous. But honestly hearing Eddie on Sometimes and Corduroy I wonder if Eddie could do a better job on their other songs too if he tried.
you STFU
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 6:29 pm
by guestT
stone is by far the best all around guitarist in the band. this thread is ridiculous.
the main riff from corduroy is basically 2 notes and ed still fucks it up half the time.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 6:47 pm
by bodysnatcher
goddammit can we just finally admit that MJD is a second account going through a VPN?
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 7:34 pm
by mikejasond
guestT wrote:stone is by far the best all around guitarist in the band. this thread is ridiculous.
the main riff from corduroy is basically 2 notes and ed still fucks it up half the time.
Its not about the notes its about the RHYTHM Eddie plays them aggressively and rhythmically which Stone has trouble with. Yes its two notes, but it doesnt matter because he plays those two notes WELL with a punchy rhythm stone just CANT do.
Stone is a good album guitarist but a BAD live guitarist, Mike is very good MOSTLY Jeff is awesome and Eddie is surprisingly great when he picks up the guitar.
Im literally listening to live corduroys and kind of blown away how good Eddie plays the main riff near the end. Yes its simple but he makes it stand out because of HOW he plays it Ive never had that from Stone that he's killing a simple riff and making it amazing.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 7:38 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
mikejasond wrote:Mike is very good MOSTLY
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 7:39 pm
by bodysnatcher
oh shit
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 7:43 pm
by Strat
This thread gets better and better with every post.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 7:55 pm
by mikejasond
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
mikejasond wrote:Mike is very good MOSTLY
Hes good MOST of the time, but there are some things he cant recreate live. Yellow Ledbetter often sounds sloppy and distorted and in general much better on the album than the live version. I think Ive grown used to this over time but I know my first reaction on hearing it live was WTF happened this is awful.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 8:03 pm
by Strat
mikejasond wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
mikejasond wrote:Mike is very good MOSTLY
Hes good MOST of the time, but there are some things he cant recreate live. Yellow Ledbetter often sounds sloppy and distorted and in general much better on the album than the live version. I think Ive grown used to this over time but I know my first reaction on hearing it live was WTF happened this is awful.
Ledbetter? Wait. What? You know he doesnt play the main guitar in that, right? and im pretty certain there is only one guitar on the studio recording.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 8:06 pm
by Jorge
He's talking about Mike now, Strat. Pay attention
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 8:07 pm
by mikejasond
Yes, Im saying Mike is mostly good but Ledbetter doesnt sound that good live, and sometimes sounds really bad (I think thats also a tone thing though)
Who does Baba? That's pretty bad too usually. I think that's Mike also
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 8:12 pm
by Strat
theplatypus wrote:He's talking about Mike now, Strat. Pay attention
Sorry. i still can't get over the Stone thing.
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 8:12 pm
by bodysnatcher
mikejason what do you think about EdVed's accordion playing?
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 8:25 pm
by mikejasond
bodysnatcher wrote:mikejason what do you think about EdVed's accordion playing?
I dont believe Ive heard it but Im impressed with his harmonica playing
Re: I think Eddie Vedder might be a better guitarist than St
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 8:29 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
mikejasond wrote:I think Eddie Vedder might be a better harmonica player than John Popper