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Does anyone know what they're building in the prison?

I think I'm crushing on Mon Mothma.

bada wrote:I really enjoyed when Saw Gerrera was talking about the various rebel factions. Separatists, Human Only ect.....fascinating. The empire is super evil but the rebels aren't all unicorns and rainbows either. I think I could watch a whole show just about that prison.

Yeah that was cool and really realistic too. Coming from here and knowing our history it reflects it pretty accurately. Factions within factions.

B wrote:Does anyone know what they're building in the prison?

Thought it was tie fighter parts initially but they look more like proper engine parts so maybe even hyperdrive casings?


I’m just wondering how cassian is gonna get outta there? The ISB track him down and realise they actually have him? Or he gets sprung or escapes?

These guys don't know, but the theorize that it's Death Star parts which will ultimately kill Cassian.

They also caught that one of his table mates fights in the Battle of Scarif.

What if one group of prisoners puts that stuff together and another just takes it apart and they aren't building anything just doing time? I'm 99.9999% sure that's not it but wow that would be soul crushing lol.

bada wrote:What if one group of prisoners puts that stuff together and another just takes it apart and they aren't building anything just doing time? I'm 99.9999% sure that's not it but wow that would be soul crushing lol.

Nah, the Empire has to finish that fucking Death Star. They've got work to do. They don't think enough about the prisoners to mindfuck them. They're just cogs in a machine.

Seen the first six episodes. A shame nearly everyone died in that episode. Really loved the buildup in episodes three and especially the fourth episode.

Feels like it is both great, and still missing something. Still a couple of episodes behind, so not very active in this thread.

Knowing Andor is bad for your health.

Anders wrote:Seen the first six episodes. A shame nearly everyone died in that episode. Really loved the buildup in episodes three and especially the fourth episode.

Feels like it is both great, and still missimg something. Still a couple of episodes behind, so not very active in this thread.

laser swords

Andor the character felt really off last night, what with joining us in the audience for most of his own story, but it continues to be good and I hope the payoff on this prison story (which has felt a little forced on arrival) matches previous highs.

For now, this continues to be the best post-original trilogy Star Wars for me. Highlights include:

No Jedi.

Known characters are only involved if their function is organic to the story. Not a lot of unneeded drop ins for click bait hype.

This is the best portrayal of the empire since New Hope, bar none. Fascinating to see it in its infancy, and to have it returned to a sort of bureaucratic, "real people in a real organization" feel. That makes them a billion times more interesting than shouty bad guys and poor lighting.

No Jedi.

Some of the best written dialogue in any Star Wars.

Every character is treated as a character. They each have their own story going on. From the guys working down at the repair yard to the prisoners standing in line, everyone feels like the camera could just follow them and they'd be the main character in a whole other story. No one is just there to further the plot.

No Jedi.

Great sweeping payoffs delivered every three or four episodes, each of which moves the story forward.

No “dude who do you think the wizard will be tho” reveals.

And best of all, Syril’s mom.

McParadigm wrote:Andor the character felt really off last night, what with joining us in the audience for most of his own story, but it continues to be good and I hope the payoff on this prison story (which has felt a little forced on arrival) matches previous highs.

For now, this continues to be the best post-original trilogy Star Wars for me. Highlights include:

No Jedi.

Known characters are only involved if their function is organic to the story. Not a lot of unneeded drop ins for click bait hype.

This is the best portrayal of the empire since New Hope, bar none. Fascinating to see it in its infancy, and to have it returned to a sort of bureaucratic, "real people in a real organization" feel. That makes them a billion times more interesting than shouty bad guys and poor lighting.

No Jedi.

Some of the best written dialogue in any Star Wars.

Every character is treated as a character. They each have their own story going on. From the guys working down at the repair yard to the prisoners standing in line, everyone feels like the camera could just follow them and they'd be the main character in a whole other story. No one is just there to further the plot.

No Jedi.

Great sweeping payoffs delivered every three or four episodes, each of which moves the story forward.

No “dude who do you think the wizard will be tho” reveals.

And best of all, Syril’s mom.

The scene between Mothma and the banker at that party in the previous episode had some of the best dialogue of any SW show/movie. So much subtext there.

With the exception of Vader and Tarkin I can't think of any Star Wars baddie scarier than the mid level paper pushers on this show.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Anders wrote:Seen the first six episodes. A shame nearly everyone died in that episode. Really loved the buildup in episodes three and especially the fourth episode.

Feels like it is both great, and still missing something. Still a couple of episodes behind, so not very active in this thread.

laser swords

Not what I was thinking of. Another character to care about, Andor being more expressive, more details about the work in Coruscant.

McParadigm wrote:
No “dude who do you think the wizard will be tho” reveals.

I feel like there have been opportunities for these, and I've been expecting this sort of reveal, but they haven't happened, which has been incredibly satisfying in a way. It's like my brian is getting rewired away from the way so many storiew are told nowadays.

The prime example I can think of is Syrill's uncle. He gets mentioned 2 or 3 times as the person who will help Syrill get back on hos feet. I was fully expecting his uncle to be ISB Cheif Qyburn, who would help him get his foot in the door again with the Imperials. But no, he's just a mid-level paper pusher that we never actually meet.

The story has its own propulsion and doesn't need reveals. Characters have needs/wants and they make plans, and we get to see if those plans succeed, then the characters react. It's much simpler storytelling than "well you've got to understand there was a cartoon on Disney Channel 10 years ago that explained the background between these characters" and just feels natural.

I sure hope we never find out what they're building in the prison. The Empire needs a galactic-wide military and technological presence to hold onto power. That's reason enough to double prisoners' sentences arbitrarily so that they can continue building parts that might as well be space porta-potties. It doesn't have to be part of a super weapon.

I still love everything about this show. If I were to tweak anything, there are a few episode "pairs" that felt like they should be combined versus split into two. The Eye and the episode before it would've worked really well together with the slow build to the heist. This week's episode felt very much like the first half of something versus its own thing.

epilogue wrote:Andor is a great show. But I do think it's interesting that the most vocal viewer is the 40-something white male viewer. This is "his" Star Wars. And that's great. But it's still interesting.

Yep, this is a little treat for the mature OG Star Wars fan. Kids aren’t the targeted demo for once, and that’s why viewership sucks.

There are many people who recently in this thread who were posting ‘no interest. Nah’ etc

And now they’re experts

Good morning! Nice of you to stop by!




I found them Joe. Repeat. I found them.

dimejinky99 wrote:There are many people who recently in this thread who were posting ‘no interest. Nah’ etc

And now they’re experts

Good morning! Nice of you to stop by!




I found them Joe. Repeat. I found them.

To whom are you referring?