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Simple Torture wrote:I really think that hypothetical situation has too many variables to warrant a yes or no answer.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

B wrote:

tree_ wrote:Should a transitioned individual tell you they used to be a different sex before having sexual intercourse with you? How would you feel if they didn't?

I'm probably not woke enough, but yes and sick.

Sick? Really?

Simple Torture wrote:I tend to prickle as these types of hypotheticals because they have such overtones of gay panic. It takes someone else's deeply complex physiological and psychological issue and tries to boil it down to some kind of either/or game for (let's be honest) straight cis dudes to play. People are allowed to have their own thoughts and feelings and I would never try to discount them--my objection isn't to anyone's answers, really, just to the basis of the question itself. (After thinking about it for 5-10 minutes, I even think my original response about "variables" is a knee-jerk reaction that I regret.)

tree_ wrote:I don't want anyone in the bathroom with me... I don't care how transsexual you are or aren't. I don't even like my wife to be in the bathroom with me.

”A gay man loves and desires other men, and a lesbian desires and loves other women,” explains Sky Gilbert, a drag queen. “This defines the existential state of being gay. If there is no such thing as ‘male’ or ‘female,’ the entire self-definition of gay identity, which we have spent generations seeking to validate and protect from bigots, collapses.”

WoLF is hostile to trans groups, but they’re really cozy with Republicans.

The group is extremely friendly with right-wing media. They appeared on Tucker Carlson’s show. A few of their members took part in a 2017 anti-trans panel called “Biology Isn’t Bigotry” hosted by the ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation.

WoLF takes funding from conservatives, too. LGBTQ Nation points out that WoLF board member Kara Dansky received a $15,000 grant from the Alliance Defending Freedom, a right-wing evangelical Christian law firm that fights marriage equality and even wants homosexuality criminalized.

WoLF also receives funding via Imperial Independent Media, a right-wing propaganda outlet run by Zachary Freeman, a man who sued a fetal tissue clinic in the hopes of getting the employees’ names and home addresses in order to turn them over to angry anti-abortion activists.

And WoLF’s suit against trans rights activist Gavin Grimm‘s Title IX battle was a collaboration with the Family Policy Alliance, a religious organization that opposes same-sex marriage and birth control.

A few LGBTQ publications have noticed WoLF’s shady relationships with homophobic, misogynistic right-wingers. In response, WoLF posted a vague statement on their website claiming to be victims of “digital hate-stalking.” They also call their critics’ accusations of collusion with right-wingers “purely sexist.”

Bi_3 wrote:Can we focus on the message and not the messenger?

McParadigm wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:Can we focus on the message and not the messenger?

If you feel it is an argument worth making, I will be happy to read what you write. But no, I’m not going to humor it when it comes from the mouths of a prop group whose entire purpose is to distort the conversation with bad faith and deception.

Bi_3 wrote:FURY AS EX-OLYMPIAN SHARRON DAVIES SAYS TRANS WOMEN SHOULD NOT COMPETE IN WOMEN'S SPORT

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 05186.html