Red Mosquito

If we're saying where do they place among American, guitar-based, traditional rock bands, then yeah, they're top five for me.

is one or two beyond the realm of possibility for you. I'm not saying you'd place them there, but does it sound crazy?

stip wrote:is one or two beyond the realm of possibility for you. I'm not saying you'd place them there, but does it sound crazy?

It's hard to say, cause they may be my personal favorite given that very limited definition. But beyond just my personal tastes, can I honestly say they're more significant than Nirvana, The Ramones, R.E.M., The Doors, etc.? I dunno...

Lament wrote:If we're saying where do they place among American, guitar-based, traditional rock bands, then yeah, they're top five for me.

I think that is the definition the author is using (i hope)

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:If we're saying where do they place among American, guitar-based, traditional rock bands, then yeah, they're top five for me.

I think that is the definition the author is using (i hope)

If he's not, and we're just talking about American artists from the modern (post-1950) popular music realm, I don't think Pearl Jam is even one of the 20 greatest.

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:If we're saying where do they place among American, guitar-based, traditional rock bands, then yeah, they're top five for me.

I think that is the definition the author is using (i hope)

If he's not, and we're just talking about American artists from the modern (post-1950) popular music realm, I don't think Pearl Jam is even one of the 20 greatest.

What if we tossed in the word "mainstream"

America's popular music back catalog is just so fucking immense and amazing and filled with jaw-dropping work that the idea that Pearl Jam (no matter how much I love them) can be argued to be among the elite names just seems totally insane to me.

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:If we're saying where do they place among American, guitar-based, traditional rock bands, then yeah, they're top five for me.

I think that is the definition the author is using (i hope)

If he's not, and we're just talking about American artists from the modern (post-1950) popular music realm, I don't think Pearl Jam is even one of the 20 greatest.

What if we tossed in the word "mainstream"

That was what I was meant by "popular music realm."

Lament wrote:can I honestly say they're more significant than Nirvana, The Ramones, R.E.M., The Doors, etc.? I dunno...

*waves hand excitedly*

Ooh, I do! I do!

Spoiler: show

No, and it's not remotely close.

Kevin Davis wrote:

theplatypus wrote:The amount of people who believe AC/DC are American is pretty staggering.

Is it really?

Yes

Birds in Hell wrote:

Lament wrote:can I honestly say they're more significant than Nirvana, The Ramones, R.E.M., The Doors, etc.? I dunno...

*waves hand excitedly*

Ooh, I do! I do!

Spoiler: show

No, and it's not remotely close.

god I hate the ramones. And I'd pretty comfortably put PJ ahead of the doors. I also stand by Nirvana as being too brief, and, if we are to believe the rumors in the Nirvana threads, they were already running low on ideas by In Utero. They'd be a top contender if you were just trying to limit your discussion to bands in their prime.

I would feel comfortable calling Pearl Jam one of the five most significant white, American, mainstream "Alternative" bands of the 90s, along with Nirvana, the Beastie Boys, Nine Inch Nails, and either RHCP or R.E.M.

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:If we're saying where do they place among American, guitar-based, traditional rock bands, then yeah, they're top five for me.

I think that is the definition the author is using (i hope)

If he's not, and we're just talking about American artists from the modern (post-1950) popular music realm, I don't think Pearl Jam is even one of the 20 greatest.

What if we tossed in the word "mainstream"

That was what I was meant by "popular music realm."

Throw Out the following
Soul/Funk/R&B/Anything With Black People
Solo Artists (even if in name only)
Short Careers


Youre basically left with Pearl Jam and Aerosmith. So they're definitely top 2.

Look, I definitely prefer Pearl Jam over Aerosmith.

theplatypus wrote:Look, I definitely prefer Pearl Jam over Aerosmith.

BREAKING: @everyist proclaims Pearl Jam Best American Rock Band Ever!

in no particular order:

lynryd skynyd
van halen
my dick on a toothbrush
metallica
guns n roses
aerosmith
eagles
the doors
allman brothers

gross

Forgot AC/DC.

It's a damn good thing we can find ways to get rid of all the contenders.

Eagles
REM
CCR
Pearl Jam
Talking Heads