Red Mosquito

gettin thumped

Credit to the Pats. They were definitely the better team tonight. Really not much else to say. Some bad bounces and dumb penalties but that went bolth ways. Just got their asses kicked.

Green Habit wrote:

Coach wrote:I need input from Broncos fans since I'm a NE guy and I can't determine whether to take the Pats and the 3.5 pts or go w/ the Broncos. The pending shitty weather has me thinking this will be close.

Not confident about this game at all. I would not be surprised if NE gets a dominating win, actually. Good thing I'm watching this on a tape delay with a friend. It'll probably be like the last two years where DEN lost at NE but NE takes a key loss later on to give DEN homefield once again. Fortunately, after this NE has @IND, vs. DET, @GB and @SD. Tons of chances for a loss there.

Yep, the first half of this post was true. Now we need the second half to become true.

were they able to successfully reattach welkers upper body to his lower body?

Green Habit wrote:

Green Habit wrote:

Coach wrote:I need input from Broncos fans since I'm a NE guy and I can't determine whether to take the Pats and the 3.5 pts or go w/ the Broncos. The pending shitty weather has me thinking this will be close.

Not confident about this game at all. I would not be surprised if NE gets a dominating win, actually. Good thing I'm watching this on a tape delay with a friend. It'll probably be like the last two years where DEN lost at NE but NE takes a key loss later on to give DEN homefield once again. Fortunately, after this NE has @IND, vs. DET, @GB and @SD. Tons of chances for a loss there.

Yep, the first half of this post was true. Now we need the second half to become true.

I ended up taking the Pats and the 3.5 pts. It's rare when they are the underdog at home. Yup, the NE schedule moving forward is brutal.

great, now we get to back to NE in the playoffs....nice win guys...Denvers 3rd down defense needs some serious work

So while it was great to watch Arizona State beat Notre Dame, seeing their uniforms reminded me that there are rumors that the Broncos could change their uniforms to something very close to what ASU wore today. All I have to say to that is not just no, but hell no.

those aren't terrible, but not an improvement over the current unis either.

well this turned around quickly. classic raiders.

spike wrote:well this turned around quickly. classic raiders.

I would not have been pleasant to be around for most of that first half. If the Broncos didn't fuck around that would have been as good as 55-7.

CJ Anderson gets the baller award this week. Bradley Roby is looking better and better every week, as well.

Guys...we just went from worrying about the #1 seed to worrying about the AFC West title.

Green Habit wrote:Guys...we just went from worrying about the #1 seed to worrying about the AFC West title.

The O-line has been really bad 2 of the last 3 games. Even against Oakland it took a highlight reel catch and run from Anderson to swing momentum. I'm not in panic mode by any means. But three months ago I would never have imagined myself thinking Ritchie Incognito might not be a horrible idea.

Basically have to win at Arrowhead on a Sunday night to win the division. I mean, KC could slip against Arizona or Pittsburgh, but this Denver team has shown the ability to slip up too.

The bigger issue is that unless this team really improves on the offensive line and gets some semblance of a running game, it doesn't matter what seed they have going in to the playoffs. They won't be going anywhere once there.

Promising news.

mray10 wrote:Basically have to win at Arrowhead on a Sunday night to win the division. I mean, KC could slip against Arizona or Pittsburgh, but this Denver team has shown the ability to slip up too.

The Chiefs' loss to the Raiders changes this pretty significantly. I did some fiddling around with a playoff generator and the only way I could come up with DEN losing the tiebreaker to KC was the following:
--DEN: loses @KC, @SD, one of either vs MIA or vs BUF, and (and this is critical) wins @CIN.
--KC: loses @ARI and @PIT

That would give KC the common games tiebreaker. Any other realistic combination I've come up with gives DEN the tiebreaker if they have the same record as KC.

Another "a W is a W" game against a tough team. I want to know what's wrong with the defense, giving up 36 points and all.

Green Habit wrote:Another "a W is a W" game against a tough team. I want to know what's wrong with the defense, giving up 36 points and all.

That was a more solid win than it appeared and a big one as a lot of stuff went against them that could have easily turned that game into a loss.

The start of the second half was just huge. Broncos go on a long opening drive predominantly using the run and get all the way down to a 3rd and 1 inside the red zone, which goes wrong when they try to run a bootleg that fails miserably and Manning has to turtle. Then McManus misses the field goal in the middle of what looked like a hail storm.

Miami takes over and Denver shuts them down pretty quickly, only to give the ball back with great field position via a fumble on the punt return. Again, the defense comes up huge, actually forcing an interception on third down (that was followed by a fumble that Miami seemed to have recovered), all of which was wiped by a holding call that. So Miami went from trying a 45+ yard field goal to first and goal and got 7 shortly thereafter. That was just a huge 10-14 point swing on those first two(-ish) possessions of the half, where Denver looked to have been the better team on both offense and defense.

Much to the credit of Denver on both sides of the ball, they didn't get down about that misfortunate, and essentially continued to dominate for the rest of the half.

Also, I don't know how to find stats by quarter, but I know early in the second quarter, CBS put up a stat showing that Miami was basically running at will. They had over 50 yards rushing at that point alone. And yet didn't rush for over 100 yards for the game. The defense really struggled to start, letting Miami get those early 21 points. I thought they were great after that. The only other two scores they allowed were the very short field drive I discussed earlier following the fumbled punt and a garbage time TD where they had picked Tannehill off on the previous drive. You'd love to see the defense not allow that last score and get into a situation where Miami has the onside kick, but in today's NFL almost no one can stop that drive. If you have a halfway competent quarterback, given the rules, it's just really hard to stop those drives. So, a mixed bag for the D, but I did like the way they stepped it up.

Miami is very good this year, it's not like the Broncos were playing down to their competition. They're a difficult team to beat.

Orpheus wrote:Miami is very good this year, it's not like the Broncos were playing down to their competition. They're a difficult team to beat.

Yeah, I said as much in the Dolphins thread. I guess Terrance Knighton is correct when he says we can be high maintenance fans.

Orpheus wrote:Miami is very good this year, it's not like the Broncos were playing down to their competition. They're a difficult team to beat.

And yet, still no playoffs.

I think Miami is #10 in current AFC playoff seeding.

Sigh.