Red Mosquito

Yeah, Take The Long Way is maybe low-to-middle of Gigaton for me personally, but still great, and probably the most improved track on the record for me. It clears the two new songs pretty handily.

tragabigzanda wrote:What are they saying on the Porch about this one?

I don't know, you have to search through the four different threads about it.

haha somebody else spotted the Got Some drum fill

Thejambi wrote:TTLW is a good song that I never have the urge to ever listen to. Flat was a good description. It just kind of meanders with nothing I really want to hold on to.

I agree with this...TTLW and ND are okay songs but they are generic album filler songs to me. I like Running more than most on here it seems and definitely more than those two songs.

Geezes christ my PJ tastes do not align with a majority of the jamily.

TTLW is fucking top notch PJ. Thank you MC.

Strat wrote:Geezes christ my PJ tastes do not align with a majority of the jamily.

TTLW is fucking top notch PJ. Thank you MC.

My top notch pj measure is Alone.
How does that align are tastes?

Val wrote:Guys, I honestly tried giving TTLW multiple chances after seeing a lot of praise being sung to it.

But my initial reaction stands: it’s a pretentious piece of mediocrity straining to be original and special.

It’s not.

Parts of it are ridiculous even.

Cap. But sure, fine. It's a Matt song through and through. If you didn't dig Wellwater Conspiracy, I can see how you might not dig TTLW. But at least the riff is weird and off-kilter and different. The song is also a bit starker than a lot of their recent material. A distant cousin to in the moonlight.

tragabigzanda wrote:

stip wrote:this also is one of those cases where the ambition of the song vs the vitriol leveled against it in places seems slightly out of alignment. As opposed to Dark Matter, which is a song that does seem to want to plant a flag.

If this were their first pop-punk number, I'd agree. But as it stands, it's become their go-to formula. "We needed one more uptempo number," or whatever was said about this track. All the evidence of creative laziness is plain as day, so the vitriol is warranted.

that's fair in terms of the formula. But this (again, with one listen a few hours ago) didn't feel like a bog standard version of it.

Val wrote:

Strat wrote:Geezes christ my PJ tastes do not align with a majority of the jamily.

TTLW is fucking top notch PJ. Thank you MC.

My top notch pj measure is Alone.
How does that align are tastes?

both equally as awesome so what is your problem man?!?!?!

digster wrote:

stip wrote:this also is one of those cases where the ambition of the song vs the vitriol leveled against it in places seems slightly out of alignment. As opposed to Dark Matter, which is a song that does seem to want to plant a flag.

It's the second single off their new album, I think they clearly want people to talk about it.

they did. I just don't know WHY they chose a song like this. Or SBWM, which needed so much time to rise to greatness.

PJ are not good judge of their own songs. Never have been.

RAG319 wrote:

Val wrote:Guys, I honestly tried giving TTLW multiple chances after seeing a lot of praise being sung to it.

But my initial reaction stands: it’s a pretentious piece of mediocrity straining to be original and special.

It’s not.

Parts of it are ridiculous even.

Cap. But sure, fine. It's a Matt song through and through. If you didn't dig Wellwater Conspiracy, I can see how you might not dig TTLW. But at least the riff is weird and off-kilter and different. The song is also a bit starker than a lot of their recent material. A distant cousin to in the moonlight.

Yeah, yeah, exactly — the riff being off kilter and weird is the con here.
It’s there to distract you from an absence of a standout melody.

Val wrote:

Strat wrote:Geezes christ my PJ tastes do not align with a majority of the jamily.

TTLW is fucking top notch PJ. Thank you MC.

My top notch pj measure is Alone.
How does that align are tastes?

What about You Our

Strat wrote:

Val wrote:

Strat wrote:Geezes christ my PJ tastes do not align with a majority of the jamily.

TTLW is fucking top notch PJ. Thank you MC.

My top notch pj measure is Alone.
How does that align are tastes?

both equally as awesome so what is your problem man?!?!?!

Alone is a masterpiece.
TTLW is a turd.

I have no problems currently. Actually, my left elbow hurts sometimes and makes a strange clicking sound, now that you’ve asked

Val wrote:

RAG319 wrote:

Val wrote:Guys, I honestly tried giving TTLW multiple chances after seeing a lot of praise being sung to it.

But my initial reaction stands: it’s a pretentious piece of mediocrity straining to be original and special.

It’s not.

Parts of it are ridiculous even.

Cap. But sure, fine. It's a Matt song through and through. If you didn't dig Wellwater Conspiracy, I can see how you might not dig TTLW. But at least the riff is weird and off-kilter and different. The song is also a bit starker than a lot of their recent material. A distant cousin to in the moonlight.

Yeah, yeah, exactly — the riff being off kilter and weird is the con here.
It’s there to distract you from an absence of a standout melody.

melody isn't primarily what I care about in a song

Val wrote:Guys, I honestly tried giving TTLW multiple chances after seeing a lot of praise being sung to it.

But my initial reaction stands: it’s a pretentious piece of mediocrity straining to be original and special.

It’s not.

Parts of it are ridiculous even.

Pretentious is the last word I'd personally use for it.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Val wrote:

Strat wrote:Geezes christ my PJ tastes do not align with a majority of the jamily.

TTLW is fucking top notch PJ. Thank you MC.

My top notch pj measure is Alone.
How does that align are tastes?

What about You Our

Took me a moment but then I noticed the typo in my post

You Are is interesting.
I like revisiting it. Would never skip.

Will give it a few more listens this evening, but on first listen that is so disappointing. Completely bland and forgettable. Like a lot of PJ songs, I’m sure it’ll grow on me but I would skip that track within the first 30 seconds if it didn’t have PJ’s name attached to it.

Val wrote:

RAG319 wrote:

Val wrote:Guys, I honestly tried giving TTLW multiple chances after seeing a lot of praise being sung to it.

But my initial reaction stands: it’s a pretentious piece of mediocrity straining to be original and special.

It’s not.

Parts of it are ridiculous even.

Cap. But sure, fine. It's a Matt song through and through. If you didn't dig Wellwater Conspiracy, I can see how you might not dig TTLW. But at least the riff is weird and off-kilter and different. The song is also a bit starker than a lot of their recent material. A distant cousin to in the moonlight.

Yeah, yeah, exactly — the riff being off kilter and weird is the con here.
It’s there to distract you from an absence of a standout melody.

This is getting worse all the time.

It's another very typical Matt-Cam rocker, cut from the same cloth (if maybe not the same piece) as Evacuation, Get Right, etc.