Red Mosquito

No, really. If they go the route of having a greatest hits devoted to the post-2003 era, it will do alright. They've done alright at radio on the last three albums. Just Breathe and Fixer continue to be among their more sought out tracks at streaming sites.

But I don't think they'll go that route. The typical thing is just to create an all new from-scratch hits collection.

VinylGuy wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

stupidmop wrote:'pearl jam shunned fame and the mainstream so they could do whatever they wanted, how cool, until 2006ish maybe 2009 when they decided they kind of missed all of it *cue fixer, just breathe, sirens*

Mind Your Manners: Greatest Hits 2003-2013.

It's gonna fly off the shelves for sure.

If they released a best of: Lightning Bolt and Backspacer vs. Binaural and Riot Act...a few years from now... which would "fly off the shelves" faster?

Er...Binaural and Riot Act.....cause bush was president.....and eddie wasn't a hypocrite back then??!!

Nah, they would get slaughtered. And the reason is, as much as some 'here' hate Backspacer (and now songs like Sirens from LB), the people who buy PJs music in mass don't. Those who think their worst-liked albums (Riot Act and Binaural) are the best, should probably come to the realization that they are PJ hipsters... and PJ doesn't really care about them.

ohh let the hatred begin in...1, 2, 3...

you'll still be able to find unsold copies of backspacer in the dumpster at any Target, so basically you'd just be rebuying Lightning Bolt.

McParadigm wrote:No, really. If they go the route of having a greatest hits devoted to the post-2003 era, it will do alright. They've done alright at radio on the last three albums. Just Breathe and Fixer continue to be among their more sought out tracks at streaming sites.

But I don't think they'll go that route. The typical thing is just to create an all new from-scratch hits collection.

That isn't happening any time soon IMO mostly because of the rights to the songs. Have they stayed with Sony the story would be different.

harmless wrote:

thegroovologist wrote:By the way...have you noticed that one of Matt's intro fills is not in time ?
The fill at 0:13 >>>

Yep. It's what made me say "I'll keep the studio version, cheers." He frequently makes those flubs live but they allowed this one into the video... eek.

I don't understand how they didn't correct it in post. It's really easy to do, considering how they seem to have recorded the video.

VinylGuy wrote:I woke up with Sirens in my head...and i had to listen to it. 3 times in my way to work...This song is that good.

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:No, really. If they go the route of having a greatest hits devoted to the post-2003 era, it will do alright. They've done alright at radio on the last three albums. Just Breathe and Fixer continue to be among their more sought out tracks at streaming sites.

But I don't think they'll go that route. The typical thing is just to create an all new from-scratch hits collection.

That isn't happening any time soon IMO mostly because of the rights to the songs. Have they stayed with Sony the story would be different.

Is there any reason to assume animosity between them? Because it's no big thing for a band to go independent and then continue to work with their former label on compilations and reissues. It's like printing money. Everybody wins.

theplatypus wrote:

harmless wrote:

thegroovologist wrote:By the way...have you noticed that one of Matt's intro fills is not in time ?
The fill at 0:13 >>>

Yep. It's what made me say "I'll keep the studio version, cheers." He frequently makes those flubs live but they allowed this one into the video... eek.

I don't understand how they didn't correct it in post. It's really easy to do, considering how they seem to have recorded the video.

Maybe they left it in so it's more authentically/obviously live.

theplatypus wrote:

harmless wrote:

thegroovologist wrote:By the way...have you noticed that one of Matt's intro fills is not in time ?
The fill at 0:13 >>>

Yep. It's what made me say "I'll keep the studio version, cheers." He frequently makes those flubs live but they allowed this one into the video... eek.

I don't understand how they didn't correct it in post. It's really easy to do, considering how they seem to have recorded the video.

Yup.

theplatypus wrote:

harmless wrote:

thegroovologist wrote:By the way...have you noticed that one of Matt's intro fills is not in time ?
The fill at 0:13 >>>

Yep. It's what made me say "I'll keep the studio version, cheers." He frequently makes those flubs live but they allowed this one into the video... eek.

I don't understand how they didn't correct it in post. It's really easy to do, considering how they seem to have recorded the video.

It doesnt really feel out of time, he just doesnt come in on the "1", or forgets too, its still in time though.

it seems like they went out of their way to show that this was a live performance.

leaving in the matt flub, focusing on mike as he changed guitars, keeping eddie in the shot when he strapped on his guitar during mike's solo, zooming in on ken during one of his slightly off-time piano-key bashes, etc.

Strat wrote:It doesnt really feel out of time, he just doesnt come in on the "1", or forgets too, its still in time though.

No, he pretty much Ringo Starrs one of his fills. There are other minor timing issues during the song, and a few pitchy moments, which are all part of why I prefer this to the studio version.

Sounds like a band.

Strat wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

harmless wrote:

thegroovologist wrote:By the way...have you noticed that one of Matt's intro fills is not in time ?
The fill at 0:13 >>>

Yep. It's what made me say "I'll keep the studio version, cheers." He frequently makes those flubs live but they allowed this one into the video... eek.

I don't understand how they didn't correct it in post. It's really easy to do, considering how they seem to have recorded the video.

It doesnt really feel out of time, he just doesnt come in on the "1", or forgets too, its still in time though.

WUT

IlluminEddie wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

stupidmop wrote:'pearl jam shunned fame and the mainstream so they could do whatever they wanted, how cool, until 2006ish maybe 2009 when they decided they kind of missed all of it *cue fixer, just breathe, sirens*

Mind Your Manners: Greatest Hits 2003-2013.

It's gonna fly off the shelves for sure.

If they released a best of: Lightning Bolt and Backspacer vs. Binaural and Riot Act...a few years from now... which would "fly off the shelves" faster?

Er...Binaural and Riot Act.....cause bush was president.....and eddie wasn't a hypocrite back then??!!

Nah, they would get slaughtered. And the reason is, as much as some 'here' hate Backspacer (and now songs like Sirens from LB), the people who buy PJs music in mass don't. Those who think their worst-liked albums (Riot Act and Binaural) are the best, should probably come to the realization that they are PJ hipsters... and PJ doesn't really care about them.

I bet Jeff cares about us.

dprival78 wrote:it seems like they went out of their way to show that this was a live performance.

leaving in the matt flub, focusing on mike as he changed guitars, keeping eddie in the shot when he strapped on his guitar during mike's solo, zooming in on ken during one of his slightly off-time piano-key bashes, etc.

Strat wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

harmless wrote:

thegroovologist wrote:By the way...have you noticed that one of Matt's intro fills is not in time ?
The fill at 0:13 >>>

Yep. It's what made me say "I'll keep the studio version, cheers." He frequently makes those flubs live but they allowed this one into the video... eek.

I don't understand how they didn't correct it in post. It's really easy to do, considering how they seem to have recorded the video.

It doesnt really feel out of time, he just doesnt come in on the "1", or forgets too, its still in time though.

No no, that's out of time.

McParadigm wrote:

Strat wrote:It doesnt really feel out of time, he just doesnt come in on the "1", or forgets too, its still in time though.

No, he pretty much Ringo Starrs one of his fills. There are other minor timing issues during the song, and a few pitchy moments, which are all part of why I prefer this to the studio version.

Sounds like a band.

These mistakes are kind of a continuation of things I already don't like about Matt... so yeah, it diminishes my enjoyment of what otherwise is a great music video.

harmless wrote:These mistakes are kind of a continuation of things I already don't like about Matt... so yeah, it diminishes my enjoyment of what otherwise is a great music video.

I like broken things.

dprival78 wrote:it seems like they went out of their way to show that this was a live performance.

leaving in the matt flub, focusing on mike as he changed guitars, keeping eddie in the shot when he strapped on his guitar during mike's solo, zooming in on ken during one of his slightly off-time piano-key bashes, etc.

And yet retracking almost all of the vocals?

McParadigm wrote:

harmless wrote:These mistakes are kind of a continuation of things I already don't like about Matt... so yeah, it diminishes my enjoyment of what otherwise is a great music video.

I like broken things.

BurtReynolds wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

stupidmop wrote:'pearl jam shunned fame and the mainstream so they could do whatever they wanted, how cool, until 2006ish maybe 2009 when they decided they kind of missed all of it *cue fixer, just breathe, sirens*

Mind Your Manners: Greatest Hits 2003-2013.

It's gonna fly off the shelves for sure.

If they released a best of: Lightning Bolt and Backspacer vs. Binaural and Riot Act...a few years from now... which would "fly off the shelves" faster?

Er...Binaural and Riot Act.....cause bush was president.....and eddie wasn't a hypocrite back then??!!

Nah, they would get slaughtered. And the reason is, as much as some 'here' hate Backspacer (and now songs like Sirens from LB), the people who buy PJs music in mass don't. Those who think their worst-liked albums (Riot Act and Binaural) are the best, should probably come to the realization that they are PJ hipsters... and PJ doesn't really care about them.

ohh let the hatred begin in...1, 2, 3...

you'll still be able to find unsold copies of backspacer in the dumpster at any Target, so basically you'd just be rebuying Lightning Bolt.

Problem is that the few copies of Backspacer found "in the dumpster" may actually outweigh the sales of Riot Act and Binaural combined. I think most people just didn't dig the shit songs like Evacuation. Don't get me wrong - Light Years is a classic - there were a few on em', but in total - the crap bullets like You Are and Get Right killed any momentum. Basically, the sales data show Riot Act and Binaural are the band's worst albums. It's just a sad fact for RM hipsters that Backspacer (in relative terms) was well received. Songs like Sirens will be too. So, let's go back to talking about the depth of a song like Breakerfall.