wease wrote:Hold On seems to be the one of the three they really wanted to make work. We know they worked on 2 different versions of it during Vs. And Ed kept throwing “hold on” into improvs (back when they would do them).
Of the three, I think it had the most potential in a lot of ways — great verses, really strong vocal performance. Happy Trees is right that the chorus holds it back. I dig it though, warts and all.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 7:45 pm
by Happy Trees
Leatherhead wrote:
Happy Trees wrote: And the actual finished version of "Just A Girl" is still unreleased.
I thought this was on the Ten reissue?
That's the Mookie Blaylock demo.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 7:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 8:01 pm
by Happy Trees
Leatherhead wrote:
Happy Trees wrote: And the actual finished version of "Just A Girl" is still unreleased.
I thought this was on the Ten reissue?
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 8:34 pm
by Anders
tragabigzanda wrote:With the exception of Wash, I think the band did a great job of separating the wheat from the chaff for Ten.
How about SOLAT and Breath?
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 8:44 pm
by Happy Trees
Anders wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:With the exception of Wash, I think the band did a great job of separating the wheat from the chaff for Ten.
How about SOLAT and Breath?
Those were set aside for "Singles" ahead of time I thought. And they hadn't finished "State" yet when Ten came out. That was recorded later with Mister Cymbals.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 8:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 8:55 pm
by Anders
It was a choice, just like with Wash, YL, Footsteps, JUG, DF, etc.
Ten is the debut studio album by American rock band Pearl Jam, released on August 27, 1991,
Ten Recording Sessions
August 1990
• Dollar Short
• Richard’s ‘E’
• Weird ‘A’
• ‘E’ Ballad
• Doobie ‘E’
• The King
• Folk ‘D’
• Times Of Trouble
• Evil ‘E’
• Agytian Crave
• 7Up
• Untitled
Note: Le canzoni sopra fanno parte dei demo strumentali di Gossard conosciuti anche come Gossman Project.
8-13 Ottobre 1990 – Galleria Potatohead (London Bridge Studios) – Seattle, WA
Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Dave Krusen: batteria– Eddie Vedder: voce
• Alive
• Master/Slave
• Hold On
• Wishing Well (Free cover)
• State of Love and Trust
• Touch Me I’m Sick (Mudhoney/Citizen Dick track)
• It Ain’t Like That (Alice In Chains cover)
• Blues Jam
• Instrumental #1
• Instrumental #2
16-23 Ottobre 1990 – Galleria Potatohead (London Bridge Studios) – Seattle, WA
Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Dave Krusen: batteria– Eddie Vedder: voce
• Alive
• Alone
• Black
• Breath
• Even Flow
• Girl
• Oceans
• Once
• Release
• Evil Little Goat
• Improv (AKA Yellow Ledbetter)
Note: In questo periodo, Ottobre/Novembre 1990, viene fissato su disco l’album dei Temple of the Dog.
Dicembre 1990 – Seattle, WA
Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Dave Krusen: batteria – Eddie Vedder: voce
• Let Me Sleep (It’s Christmas Time)
29 Gennaio 1991 – London Bridge Studios – Seattle, WA
Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Dave Krusen: batteria – Eddie Vedder: voce
• Alive
• I’ve Got A Feeling (Beatles cover)
• Jeremy
• Wash
Febbario 1991 – Seattle, WA
Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Dave Krusen: batteria – Eddie Vedder: voce
• Jeremy
27 Marzo 1991 – London Bridge Studios – Seattle, WA
Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Dave Krusen: batteria – Eddie Vedder: voce
• Alone
• Black
• Breath
• Even Flow
• Garden
• Girl
• Jeremy
• Oceans
• Once
• Porch
• Release
• Brother
• Why Go
• Yellow Ledbetter (AKA Yellow Letter)
27 Marzo/26 Aprile 1991 – London Bridge Studios – Seattle, WA
Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Dave Krusen: batteria – Eddie Vedder: voce
+ Rick Parashar: organo, piano, percussioni – Walter Gray – cello su Jeremy
• Alone
• Black
• Breath
• Brother
• Deep
• Even Flow
• Garden
• Girl
• Jeremy
• Master/Slave
• 2000 Mile Blues
• Hold On
• Once
• Porch
• Release
• State Of Love & Trust
• Wash
• Why Go
• Yellow Ledbetter
Settembre 1991 – Galleria Potatohead – Seattle, WA
Dave Abbruzzese: chitarra – Eddie Vedder: voce
• Angel
Gennaio 1992 – London Bridge Studios – Seattle, WA
Dave Abbruzzese: batteria – Jeff Ament: basso – Stone Gossard: chitarra – Mike McCready: chitarra – Eddie Vedder: voce
• Chinese
• Breath
• Dirty Frank
• Even Flow
• Leash
• State Of Love and Trust
• Baba O’Riley (The Who cover)
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 9:05 pm
by wease
Happy Trees wrote:
Anders wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:With the exception of Wash, I think the band did a great job of separating the wheat from the chaff for Ten.
How about SOLAT and Breath?
Those were set aside for "Singles" ahead of time I thought. And they hadn't finished "State" yet when Ten came out. That was recorded later with Mister Cymbals.
No. There’s that demo version with Krusen that was released with the Ten re-release. There isn’t much at all that’s different between the two versions.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 9:06 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 9:10 pm
by Anders
Two better somgs than Wash left out. They were also played earlier than Wash, so completing them or not had nothing to do with it.
Disagree with you that they couldn’t have fitted on Ten.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 9:14 pm
by wease
Wait, so Hold On was recorded at that very first session? I don’t think I realized it went back that far.
And I agree State and Breath would have worked on Ten. Especially with Krusen’s drumming.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 10:17 pm
by stip
I can see keeping Breath off Ten due to its similarities to Alive - those two songs are doing something fairly similar. Of course they're both awesome so it's not a great reason, but it is a reason.
Wash and SOLAT could have been on the record and it could have been 13 songs long and even more amazing
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue November 14, 2023 10:19 pm
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:
Happy Trees wrote:
Anders wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:With the exception of Wash, I think the band did a great job of separating the wheat from the chaff for Ten.
How about SOLAT and Breath?
Those were set aside for "Singles" ahead of time I thought. And they hadn't finished "State" yet when Ten came out. That was recorded later with Mister Cymbals.
Yes, and they also just don't fit in with the rest of Ten. There's an uptempo energy that is otherwise lacking from that record.
They also would've stuck out by being way better than everything else on the album
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 9:10 am
by Anders
Jorge wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Happy Trees wrote:
Anders wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:With the exception of Wash, I think the band did a great job of separating the wheat from the chaff for Ten.
How about SOLAT and Breath?
Those were set aside for "Singles" ahead of time I thought. And they hadn't finished "State" yet when Ten came out. That was recorded later with Mister Cymbals.
Yes, and they also just don't fit in with the rest of Ten. There's an uptempo energy that is otherwise lacking from that record.
They also would've stuck out by being way better than everything else on the album
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 8:15 pm
by Vitalogist
Breath and SOLAT are definitely A+ songs.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 8:40 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Vitalogist wrote:Breath and SOLAT are definitely A+ songs.
Breath, yes. SOLAT is a B-
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 9:16 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Vitalogist wrote:Breath and SOLAT are definitely A+ songs.
Breath, yes. SOLAT is a B-
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 11:16 pm
by Birds in Hell
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Vitalogist wrote:Breath and SOLAT are definitely A+ songs.
Breath, yes. SOLAT is a B-
Wrong way round.
Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed November 15, 2023 11:21 pm
by epilogue
Birds in Hell wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Vitalogist wrote:Breath and SOLAT are definitely A+ songs.