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Simple Torture wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

Strat wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Probably not. I think Sen. Warren is going to wait it out, and if the next president is a Republican, then she'll run in 4/8 years on the same sort of anti-Republican backlash that almost got Kerry elected and did get Obama elected, just like the next president (probably Republican) will ride an anti-Obama(Democrat) wave of backlash into office etc etc etc

You really think a republican is going to win the white house?

If the election was being held in 3 months instead of 13, I think Clinton would win (narrowly against some candidates, by a wide margin over another). A lot can happen in a year, and since no Republican candidate has risen from the crop yet, it's sort've hard to speculate.

sort OF! sort OF! I finally got you!

Can I claim a colloquialism?

I would of let you.

The Argonaut wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

Strat wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Probably not. I think Sen. Warren is going to wait it out, and if the next president is a Republican, then she'll run in 4/8 years on the same sort of anti-Republican backlash that almost got Kerry elected and did get Obama elected, just like the next president (probably Republican) will ride an anti-Obama(Democrat) wave of backlash into office etc etc etc

You really think a republican is going to win the white house?

If the election was being held in 3 months instead of 13, I think Clinton would win (narrowly against some candidates, by a wide margin over another). A lot can happen in a year, and since no Republican candidate has risen from the crop yet, it's sort've hard to speculate.

sort OF! sort OF! I finally got you!

Can I claim a colloquialism?

I would of let you.

For all intensive porpoises, we're in the same page.

Remember when it seemed like it was the Republicans that had their act together?

My feeling is that if Bush or Rubio doesn't gain some real traction by the end of the year, the GOP "establishment" will push for one of them to drop out. And as of right now, that looks like Bush. I know it's crazy to think because of his warchest and endorsements, but he's run a pitiful campaign so far. At some point, the GOP will have to revise their strategy of just waiting for Trump and Carson to implode.

turned2black wrote:My feeling is that if Bush or Rubio doesn't gain some real traction by the end of the year, the GOP "establishment" will push for one of them to drop out. And as of right now, that looks like Bush. I know it's crazy to think because of his warchest and endorsements, but he's run a pitiful campaign so far. At some point, the GOP will have to revise their strategy of just waiting for Trump and Carson to implode.

I still think Trump and Carson have little to no chance. Carson says things just as crazy as Trump, he just does so in a softer voice. That can work in September and October, but not in February and March in my opinion. These guys are just this cycle's Bachmann, Caine, or Rudy. That said, if they're still here in January I could see something like what you're describing. I think it's more likely we'd see a full court press against the "outsiders" from FOX News in an effort to marginalize them.

For those of you who want Bernie to be more specific, what exactly would you like him to say?

Trump's sustained run at the top has surprised me. We were all just hoping he would at least make it to the first debate . I don't think he'll be the nominee but not as certain of that as I was few months ago. I expect Carson slipping before him. But I still don't know which of the grown up Republicans are going to top him.

That's the thing. I would normally agree with the likes of Nate Silver and say Trump has no chance, but what's the alternative? Bush was the obvious choice, but he's been such a lackluster candidate that sometimes I wonder if he's just "putting in the hours" to appease the Bush "legacy" donors. The other thing some of the pundits are missing is that the number of younger conservatives has spiked in the last few years. And "change" candidates appeal to them.

Also, speaking of Nate Silver. Weren't Walker and Bush his "picks" for the GOP nomination early on? Walker's out of the race and Bush is currently polling 5th.

4/5 wrote:For those of you who want Bernie to be more specific, what exactly would you like him to say?

He needs to talk more (and in greater detail) about how his brand of socialism is different from what the conventional view has been, or else he's doomed when it comes to baby boomer democrats, which will out-vote his younger base. I also think he needs to address those who call him a radical leftist. Even if that's true in relation to politics in America, he's not a radical leftist. He should be reminding people that his views are still based on markets and private business. In the debate, Hillary said "sometimes we need to save capitalism from itself" and "we need a new New Deal." That's basically Bernie's vision in a nutshell, and the reason for opposition to Hillary (from the left), and yet, she's articulating that view better than he is.

And if in the end she's really fighting for the same thing, it doesn't really matter. But these are two people who have been around a long time, and I don't think Bernie exists as a candidate if people thought Hillary was genuine.

turned2black wrote:The other thing some of the pundits are missing is that the number of younger conservatives has spiked in the last few years. And "change" candidates appeal to them.

I think that bodes better for Rubio than for anyone else.

I love how Webb drops out, might run as an independent, and no one gives a shit.

I'm mostly curious about what Trump's impact will be on whoever DOES get the nomination. His status as media focal point has really done a lot to minimize the infighting, negative profiling, and dirt digging with the other candidates. Those repubs could come out of this with some of the shiniest public images of any candidates to ever survive a primary.

Tump is doing quite a number on JEB! right now about 9/11

Cupid, draw back your bow.

This is America, and this is the sort of thing that politicians talk about: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/politics/ ... index.html

Playing to Hawkeye State evangelical voters, Donald Trump riffed on religious political correctness at an event here Wednesday by vowing to always say "Merry Christmas" come the winter holiday season.

"I'm a good Christian," the Republican presidential front-runner said. "If I become president, we're gonna be saying Merry Christmas at every store ... You can leave happy holidays at the corner."

Guys, big news: http://turnto10.com/news/local/chafee-t ... ign-friday

I don't know if I'd consider a missing web page "big news."

I hope this means that they'll let Lessig onto the stage at the next debate. Having only three candidates won't look very good this early in the process, and it's pretty clear that that is all the Party is interested in right now: how Hillary looks. I'm not too big on Lessig's one-track, gimmicky idea, but he deserves to be on the stage, at least.

Dscans wrote:I don't know if I'd consider a missing web page "big news."

It was a local Rhode Island news station reporting that Friday morning Lincoln Chafee was going to make a big announcement about his campaign.