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Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:41 pm
by @SkitchP
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:In a vacuum, the podracing scene is fantastic. I just don't think it works in the film. Or rather, it's completely disposable in the context of the film. It adds nothing and the movie could have been the exact same or better without it. It's overly indulgent and actually takes away more than it adds. But in and of itself it's a cool sequence.
I don't think so at all. It's Anakin proving himself. His whole future is on the line. There's a lot at stake.

In the universe, yes. As tension in the film? None. Therefore it added nothing.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:41 pm
by dimejinky99
durdencommatyler wrote:In a vacuum, the podracing scene is fantastic. I just don't think it works in the film. Or rather, it's completely disposable in the context of the film. It adds nothing and the movie could have been the exact same or better without it. It's overly indulgent and actually takes away more than it adds. But in and of itself it's a cool sequence.

Hey now. Its purpose was to sell a billion podrace video games for the N64 and that was an awesome game.

And shoe little Anni had the force n all. I. Ah think of a million cooler ways to do that in almost sinister ways to make him look Force powerful n all that. But here we are

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:42 pm
by LoathedVermin72
@SkitchP wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:In a vacuum, the podracing scene is fantastic. I just don't think it works in the film. Or rather, it's completely disposable in the context of the film. It adds nothing and the movie could have been the exact same or better without it. It's overly indulgent and actually takes away more than it adds. But in and of itself it's a cool sequence.
I don't think so at all. It's Anakin proving himself. His whole future is on the line. There's a lot at stake.

In the universe, yes. As tension in the film? None. Therefore it added nothing.
Well, I disagree with that. I think there's a lot of tension in the sequence. Lucas directed the action set-pieces very skillfully in TPM, and I think the result is quite visceral.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:44 pm
by Strat
Its too long, its quite boring, and im pretty certain i doze off when i first saw it. When i woke up it was still going on and nothing had changed.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:45 pm
by Strat
The dialogue was awful, making it feel like fuckin NASCAR was embarrassing (with the announcers and their awful dialogue), and it looked like a video game.

Awful.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:45 pm
by LetMeSleep
Strat wrote:Its too long, its quite boring, and im pretty certain i doze off when i first saw it. When i woke up it was still going on and nothing had changed.
Or it was blinking.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:46 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:In a vacuum, the podracing scene is fantastic. I just don't think it works in the film. Or rather, it's completely disposable in the context of the film. It adds nothing and the movie could have been the exact same or better without it. It's overly indulgent and actually takes away more than it adds. But in and of itself it's a cool sequence.
I don't think so at all. It's Anakin proving himself. His whole future is on the line. There's a lot at stake.
As a plot device, yes. It works on that level. That's fair enough. I probably overstated/misspoke my position. Really, I was speaking more to necessity. There are plenty of other ways to get the same point across that would have been more intricate, interesting, and perhaps vital to the overall story/theme. Lucas seemed to want to THIS specific scene. It's like the rest of the movie was written around this unnecessary spectacle. Again, it's beautiful, I just don't think it adds as much to the story or the experience as it Lucas thinks it does.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:53 pm
by LoathedVermin72
BODRACERS GO VROOM I LOVE IT

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:54 pm
by Strat
God what awful movies. Such a wasted opportunity.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:55 pm
by LoathedVermin72
STILL BETTER THAN TFA

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:56 pm
by epilogue
The more the lore expands around them, the less of an issue I have with the prequel films. I don't think anything can make them "good" movies but their flaws are less irritating as the world gets fleshed out in The Clone Wars and Rebels and the novels, etc.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:57 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:STILL BETTER THAN TFA
Oh you

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Thu January 12, 2017 11:59 pm
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:The more the lore expands around them, the less of an issue I have with the prequel films. I don't think anything can make them "good" movies but their flaws are less irritating as the world gets fleshed out in The Clone Wars and Rebels and the novels, etc.
That just makes the clone wars and rebels good. I dont see how this makes the prequels less awful. I feel it makes them even worse that they can do in 25 minute cartoons what lucas couldn't attain with an endless budget and big studio movie time

Sorry, I have to pee and I would like a cocktail.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Fri January 13, 2017 12:14 am
by epilogue
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:The more the lore expands around them, the less of an issue I have with the prequel films. I don't think anything can make them "good" movies but their flaws are less irritating as the world gets fleshed out in The Clone Wars and Rebels and the novels, etc.
That just makes the clone wars and rebels good. I dont see how this makes the prequels less awful. I feel it makes them even worse that they can do in 25 minute cartoons what lucas couldn't attain with an endless budget and big studio movie time

Sorry, I have to pee and I would like a cocktail.
That's why I said, "I don't think anything can make them "good" movies."

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Fri January 13, 2017 12:15 am
by dimejinky99
I've tried with beer, with ecstasy and with coke.
Nothing can make them 'good films'

It's two hours of sitting there wishin it was better for the most part.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Fri January 13, 2017 12:15 am
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:The more the lore expands around them, the less of an issue I have with the prequel films. I don't think anything can make them "good" movies but their flaws are less irritating as the world gets fleshed out in The Clone Wars and Rebels and the novels, etc.
That just makes the clone wars and rebels good. I dont see how this makes the prequels less awful. I feel it makes them even worse that they can do in 25 minute cartoons what lucas couldn't attain with an endless budget and big studio movie time

Sorry, I have to pee and I would like a cocktail.
That's why I said, "I don't think anything can make them "good" movies."
Nope. you never said that.

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Fri January 13, 2017 12:15 am
by Strat
dimejinky99 wrote:I've tried with beer, with ecstasy and with coke.
Nothing can make them 'good films'

It's two hours of sitting there wishin it was better for the most part.
Can you come with a disclaimer when you are posting on RM via a coke binge?

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Fri January 13, 2017 12:18 am
by epilogue
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:The more the lore expands around them, the less of an issue I have with the prequel films. I don't think anything can make them "good" movies but their flaws are less irritating as the world gets fleshed out in The Clone Wars and Rebels and the novels, etc.
That just makes the clone wars and rebels good. I dont see how this makes the prequels less awful. I feel it makes them even worse that they can do in 25 minute cartoons what lucas couldn't attain with an endless budget and big studio movie time

Sorry, I have to pee and I would like a cocktail.
That's why I said, "I don't think anything can make them "good" movies."
Nope. you never said that.
:lol:

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Fri January 13, 2017 12:21 am
by dimejinky99
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:I've tried with beer, with ecstasy and with coke.
Nothing can make them 'good films'

It's two hours of sitting there wishin it was better for the most part.
Can you come with a disclaimer when you are posting on RM via a coke binge?

In the long distant past. Back on the old board. Way back actually. When we had like one all purpose Star Wars thread that got maybe 1 post a year. Not from me

Re: Star Wars: The Prequels

Posted: Fri January 13, 2017 12:21 am
by Strat
dimejinky99 wrote:
Strat wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:I've tried with beer, with ecstasy and with coke.
Nothing can make them 'good films'

It's two hours of sitting there wishin it was better for the most part.
Can you come with a disclaimer when you are posting on RM via a coke binge?

In the long distant past. Back on the old board. Way back actually. When we had like one all purpose Star Wars thread that got maybe 1 post a year. Not from me
That sounds like a depressing world to live in!

Now all its all star wars all the time!