Red Mosquito

Once again: the fact that socialists killed other socialists doesn't make them not socialist! It's what socialists are best at! Of course they killed communists! Even communists killed communists! Everybody kills communists!

Ah, yes, the only thing I said.

How many strikes were there in the Soviet Union?

The Nazis didn't just use socialist rhetoric, they believed in their brand of it, though they could never fully implement it, which is another element of socialism: it's utter unworkability.

Mike wrote:. The nazis weren't bad because they also were socialists. They were bad because they were nazis.

This is the only good point brought up in this debate, though I think the mindset buried in both is the root of the problem.

durdencommatyler wrote:I miss Mickey.

Mickey would be calling you a piece of shit liberal who deserves the gulag right now!

theplatypus wrote:If it's Biden vs. Trump then Biden is the clear option, but goddamn is that disappointing. I am certain Biden will lose.

Every word of this

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I miss Mickey.

Mickey would be calling you a piece of shit liberal who deserves the gulag right now!

And?

this may go in the horrible prediction thread later but biden will win

doug rr wrote:this may go in the horrible prediction thread later but biden will win

God bless u

Assuming he lives that long.

if people think that biden will lose, then god only knows how bad it would have been with bernie, particularly considering he couldn't even rally the younger vote last tuesday.

How does it work of the nominee dies? Does the VP become the nominee? The party hastily selects someone?

Who cares if Biden wins or loses? Outside of meaningless issues with Trump’s personality, I have yet to see anyone make a convincing case as to how Biden would be any better than him. Dude is talking about appointing Bloomberg and Jamie Dimon to shit. He’s a fucking republican.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Who cares if Biden wins or loses? Outside of meaningless issues with Trump’s personality, I have yet to see anyone make a convincing case as to how Biden would be any better than him.

This is completely absurd.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Who cares if Biden wins or loses? Outside of meaningless issues with Trump’s personality, I have yet to see anyone make a convincing case as to how Biden would be any better than him.

This is completely absurd.

Another convincing case

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Who cares if Biden wins or loses? Outside of meaningless issues with Trump’s personality, I have yet to see anyone make a convincing case as to how Biden would be any better than him.

This is completely absurd.

Another convincing case

Maybe you should be paying attention to different sources?

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Who cares if Biden wins or loses? Outside of meaningless issues with Trump’s personality, I have yet to see anyone make a convincing case as to how Biden would be any better than him.

This is completely absurd.

Another convincing case

Maybe you should be paying attention to different sources?

Now you’ve really convinced me

«In the Weimar Republic the left consisted of the Communists (KPD) and the Social Democrats (SPD). The Center consisted of the Democratic party (DDP), the Catholic Center Party (Z) and the People’s Party (DVP). The right consisted of the German Nationalist Party (DNVP) and the National Socialist Party (NSDAP-Nazi).»

«The parties on the left were strong supporters of progressive taxation, government social welfare programs, labor unions, equality and economic opportunity for women. They were less nationalistic, militaristic and antisemitic than the parties on the right. They favored greater government involvement in—and control of—business and industry. The SPD was committed to further reform of Weimar society and hoped to eventually make the institutions and economy of Weimar more egalitarian. This party was a bulwark of the Republic and was the most active opponent of antisemitism during the Weimar years.»

«The parties on the right were strongly nationalistic and supported large military. They were opposed to social welfare programs, labor unions and progressive taxation. They favored an economy directed by industrialists and landowners with large estates. They were antisemitic and favored traditional roles for women. The Nationalists were a more traditional Conservative Party, while the National Socialists were a radical party wanting revolutionary change. The Nazi party was unequivocally opposed to the Weimar Republic and in 1923 its members led by Hitler tried unsuccessfully to seize the government by force. After this failed attempt the party reverted to a strategy of gaining power through the electoral process without ever changing its fundamental opposition to democracy and republican government. Antisemitism and the threat that the Jews represented to Germany were at the core of the Nazi ideology. Most industrialists and financiers supported more moderate political leaders such as Gustav Stresemann and only began to supply Hitler with money in the early 1930s when he looked like a winner and they saw the communist threat growing.»

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Who cares if Biden wins or loses? Outside of meaningless issues with Trump’s personality, I have yet to see anyone make a convincing case as to how Biden would be any better than him.

This is completely absurd.

Another convincing case

Maybe you should be paying attention to different sources?

Now you’ve really convinced me

Great!