Red Mosquito

Alot of times it seems Ed uses multiple muses in the same song and just kind of weaves it together as best has he can.

Tj wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Tj wrote:

stip wrote:that is just such a gross thing to write a song about

So is Good and Evil gross? It seems there are other examples of Ed anger being pointed directly at a person in this way.

again, i'm not a lyric person and don't really wanna hype this idea of 'eddie vs vicky cornell' but holy shit, this guy is angry at someone. i could 100% see these lyrics being about an eastern european model who married an american businessman, but wow, EV is pissed.

Good and Evil is about a women killing a Elephant then tweeting a pic. Not the Trumps

it might be but there are some similar safari stories about the trump sons that fit with the lyrics, the dour queen could be melenia.

B wrote:

Anders wrote:

B wrote:Haven't had time to spin the record, but I went ahead and dropped the needle on Ms. Mills because I've been singing that in my head for 2 weeks now.

Sounds great!

Power of Right and Rose of Jericho ... why aren't these Pearl Jam songs? These are Pearl Jam songs.
Fallout Today, Good and Evil - pass
Picture - Better than I originally thought
Try and Mrs. Mills (and maybe Brother the Cloud) - I want more of this Eddie Vedder

what about invincible and the dark?

stip wrote:

B wrote:

Anders wrote:

B wrote:Haven't had time to spin the record, but I went ahead and dropped the needle on Ms. Mills because I've been singing that in my head for 2 weeks now.

Sounds great!

Power of Right and Rose of Jericho ... why aren't these Pearl Jam songs? These are Pearl Jam songs.
Fallout Today, Good and Evil - pass
Picture - Better than I originally thought
Try and Mrs. Mills (and maybe Brother the Cloud) - I want more of this Eddie Vedder

what about invincible and the dark?

I don't really care for invincible. It's fine. I need to listen to The Dark again.

I kerp coming back to Invincible, Fallout Today and The Dark. Brilliant.

Every single song has grown on me. there's not a single one I don't like quite a bit, but Fallout Today hasn't moved too far beyond song I like, which is surprising. That one should be right in my wheelhouse, and isn't quite there

Tj wrote:Alot of times it seems Ed uses multiple muses in the same song and just kind of weaves it together as best has he can.

This.

Someone asked above if Ed writes literally -- I'm sure there's a real person or experience behind every lyric he writes, but I doubt any of his songs are 100% about a particular person or people.

I mean, Alive is the classic "autobiographical" Eddie Vedder song, but there are still lots of fictional details: the incest, the serial killer backstory, etc.

it's the thematic truth behind the songs that is what's essential. The stories he shares about what they are about or what inspired him are really just starting places for those deeper emotional truths.

Also, re: Good and Evil

https://www.treehugger.com/trump-sons-u ... ls-4860219

I think POR is about American right wingers

Good and evil about Trump family

Kalevi wrote:I think POR is about American right wingers

That's what I had thought, as well, especially since I've been hearing "White man scared" in the first line, but I guess that's wrong.

I've been listening to this album basically every day since it was released. I'm shocked.

Brett wrote:

Kalevi wrote:I think POR is about American right wingers

That's what I had thought, as well, especially since I've been hearing "White man scared" in the first line, but I guess that's wrong.

It's about Princess Diana

Brett wrote:

Kalevi wrote:I think POR is about American right wingers

That's what I had thought, as well, especially since I've been hearing "White man scared" in the first line, but I guess that's wrong.

I don't see this being about politics.

Tj wrote:

Brett wrote:

Kalevi wrote:I think POR is about American right wingers

That's what I had thought, as well, especially since I've been hearing "White man scared" in the first line, but I guess that's wrong.

I don't see this being about politics.

Its bright man scared.

stip wrote:Also, re: Good and Evil

https://www.treehugger.com/trump-sons-u ... ls-4860219

It could be, but I have never heard of any of the Trump lady's hunting, and the focus of the song is about a women shooting a Elephant. I remember a woman posted a pic of a Elephant maybe a few years ago and it was a notable news story.

It's about Wayne LaPierre 's wife elephant hunt. June of 2021.

Got Some wrote:Sorry if my interpretation of the POR lyrics has offended that wasn’t the point.

I could be wrong it was just my assumption.

I don’t wish to stir things up either but this honestly was my immediate impression on first hearing the song. It hit me immediately! I didn’t want to raise it at the time because I was still trying to find a different meaning. After you made the comment I did a search and noticed that other people on various sites have made a connection both with comes then goes and Cornell.

I have tried very hard to find a different meaning, but I feel the lyrics throughout the entire song keep coming back to this. Obviously my interpretation could be wrong but I can’t shake that first impression and every time I look at the lyrics it only further solidifies my view.

Tj wrote:

stip wrote:Also, re: Good and Evil

https://www.treehugger.com/trump-sons-u ... ls-4860219

It could be, but I have never heard of any of the Trump lady's hunting, and the focus of the song is about a women shooting a Elephant. I remember a woman posted a pic of a Elephant maybe a few years ago and it was a notable news story.

i wasnt familar with (or i forgot) this story. Definitely could be. lots of assholes shooting elephants

I am loving plenty of songs on this album and don't really dislike anything (OK, I won't seek out The Haves or Long Way) but the one that I seem to want to put on repeat most often is Mrs. Mills. What a beautiful melody and such great lyrics.