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cutuphalfdead wrote:

numbers wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:he's still the rightful lord of winterfell

Fine, Jon is the rightful heir to the Iron Throne.

No he isn't.

Jon is a bastard. He isn't the rightful heir to anything.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

numbers wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:he's still the rightful lord of winterfell

Fine, Jon is the rightful heir to the Iron Throne.

No he isn't.

Jon is a bastard. He isn't the rightful heir to anything.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Strat wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.

Why wouldn't the King in the North follow normal rules of succession? The North follows the same inheritance rules as the rest of the realm.

I agree with you on Bran though, about not wanting the title at this point (be it Lord of Winterfell or King in the North, which I doubt you can really divorce at this point). And even if he did take it, I don't see him ever having an heir so after his death it would pass to one of his siblings and their children. Sansa if they go female, Jon if he legitimizes him.

But,

Spoiler: show

all that's moot because Robb named Jon his heir already.

Spoiler: show

I was going to say, didnt Robb actually decree him a stark and his heir a few seasons back? I cant believe i remembered that.

I spoilered it because I couldn't remember if it happened in the show or not.

Zantac Junkie wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Strat wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.

Why wouldn't the King in the North follow normal rules of succession? The North follows the same inheritance rules as the rest of the realm.

I agree with you on Bran though, about not wanting the title at this point (be it Lord of Winterfell or King in the North, which I doubt you can really divorce at this point). And even if he did take it, I don't see him ever having an heir so after his death it would pass to one of his siblings and their children. Sansa if they go female, Jon if he legitimizes him.

But,

Spoiler: show

all that's moot because Robb named Jon his heir already.

Spoiler: show

I was going to say, didnt Robb actually decree him a stark and his heir a few seasons back? I cant believe i remembered that.

I spoilered it because I couldn't remember if it happened in the show or not.

It didn't.

BurtReynolds wrote:At this point, they will give the crown to anyone who can manage to win a battle, even though Jon is a pretty terrible general.

Spoiler: show

Strat wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Strat wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.

Why wouldn't the King in the North follow normal rules of succession? The North follows the same inheritance rules as the rest of the realm.

I agree with you on Bran though, about not wanting the title at this point (be it Lord of Winterfell or King in the North, which I doubt you can really divorce at this point). And even if he did take it, I don't see him ever having an heir so after his death it would pass to one of his siblings and their children. Sansa if they go female, Jon if he legitimizes him.

But,

Spoiler: show

all that's moot because Robb named Jon his heir already.

Spoiler: show

I was going to say, didnt Robb actually decree him a stark and his heir a few seasons back? I cant believe i remembered that.

I spoilered it because I couldn't remember if it happened in the show or not.

It didn't.

Are you sure? cause im pretty certain i knew it

Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.

Spoiler: show

I know no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK!

Mecca wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.

you gotta be fucking kidding me

Spoiler: show

I know no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK!

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Mecca wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.

you gotta be fucking kidding me

Spoiler: show

I know no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK!

exactly

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

numbers wrote:I just watched the King in the North scene again, fucking incredible.

Anybody else feel like those "King of the North!" chants went on for an uncomfortably long time?

cutuphalfdead wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

numbers wrote:I just watched the King in the North scene again, fucking incredible.

Anybody else feel like those "King of the North!" chants went on for an uncomfortably long time?

It was actually one of my least favorite scenes in the episode.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Okay, guys, am I overthinking this? Am I the only one who saw clear signs that Sansa is now going to take up Littlefinger on his offer and turn on her Jon?

I don't think it's impossible, but I do think her inner turmoil is less vindictive. I get the sense that she's growing by leaps and bounds each day; that the realities of her situation are becoming more clear (don't forget that she was running from Ramsey very recently), and that Littlefinger's proposal is merely one option she is weighing

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Okay, guys, am I overthinking this? Am I the only one who saw clear signs that Sansa is now going to take up Littlefinger on his offer and turn on her Jon?

I don't think it's impossible, but I do think her inner turmoil is less vindictive. I get the sense that she's growing by leaps and bounds each day; that the realities of her situation are becoming more clear (don't forget that she was running from Ramsey very recently), and that Littlefinger's proposal is merely one option she is weighing

Let's just call it my first bold prediction: Sansa's going dark side, y'all.

Mike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Okay, guys, am I overthinking this? Am I the only one who saw clear signs that Sansa is now going to take up Littlefinger on his offer and turn on her Jon?

I don't think it's impossible, but I do think her inner turmoil is less vindictive. I get the sense that she's growing by leaps and bounds each day; that the realities of her situation are becoming more clear (don't forget that she was running from Ramsey very recently), and that Littlefinger's proposal is merely one option she is weighing

I interpreted that last scene as her being worried about Littlefinger. She goes from happy about "King In The North" to worried/scared when she see's Littlefinger's face. She knows he doesn't like what's happening and she knows how dangerous Littlefinger is when he doesn't like something.